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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #210 on: June 24, 2016, 01:02:20 pm »
Mechaz0r reminds me of the Omega guaridan in Solforge. Similiar to this card he is created from multiple mech cards that you play and is a really strong card.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #211 on: June 24, 2016, 04:04:54 pm »
unlocked enoughour minion I like the fire hand works quite well with my vance deck since they  have a good deal of spells I wonder if super spell decks are possible....might have to try that in the future
also Id like to ask a couple of questions
1 do you think the spectral knights a good legendary? just in case you don't know what I'm talking about he's a 7 7 7 and he goes down 1 cost and gets 1 1 in stats when ever hes replaced his replacement system works like everybody else
that's obviously really powerful but he seems far to un reliable to be of any use really personally I think

2 what's the best way to deal with the alternate abyssian general if your playing the default? I fought one a bit ago and it felt like I was fighting someone who could counter me at every turn and shut down my main advantage(little fellers) while helping him self
I almost think that activatable(yea I know messed that spelling up but I'm having a brain fart at the moment and I cant get it right sorry ): ) should be changed so it cant effect the little fellers of your opponent.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #212 on: June 24, 2016, 06:05:08 pm »
If anyone want to add me on Duelyst, my name is "TheVampire100", just like everywhere else (yep, I'm not very creative with my names, lol).

I could use another Sarlac, his synergy with the Abyssian cards is crazy but he is worthless once dispelled, so another copy would be good. I also need the other cards with deathwatch. Shadowwatcher is cool as he is (really, I like him) but if I want to get the most out of the Sarlac combo, I need the other cards as well.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #213 on: June 24, 2016, 06:25:51 pm »
so is there some way I can disable animations? like particular animations at most but ill take it for all if I can because you see I just lost my last gauntlet match I had had the minion with death watch that summons little feelers who died and then I had enougher in till I had an hilarious amount of them.....and then I decided to cast the aoe damage and healing spell.......and then my frame rate tanked to shit and then I ran out of time......and id already cast an aoe damage buff so yea I'm a little pissed of right now.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #214 on: June 25, 2016, 10:54:26 pm »
hey so I was just on their reddit and theres a ton of of complaining about some card called grincher who apparently gives you a random artefact and discounts it by 2 so I just thought id ask what you think of that personally id remove the discount and make it limited to your own faction realy the possibility of getting enougher factions artefact is to unbalancing for me and you really don't need a discount seeing as how getting an extra artefact and a body is pretty darn strong already in opinion obviously.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #215 on: June 25, 2016, 11:49:34 pm »
hey so I was just on their reddit and theres a ton of of complaining about some card called grincher who apparently gives you a random artefact and discounts it by 2 so I just thought id ask what you think of that personally id remove the discount and make it limited to your own faction realy the possibility of getting enougher factions artefact is to unbalancing for me and you really don't need a discount seeing as how getting an extra artefact and a body is pretty darn strong already in opinion obviously.
I agree with you personally but honestly I don't think the card, even in its current form will be used that much. That's because at 5 mana its stats are less than mediocre and the weapon it gives you is unreliable. It could be amazing, it could be useless. But the bigger problem is that people are already using a lot of artifacts so Rust Crawler is already pretty common in the metagame, which is a 2 drop that destroys a weapon and gives a 2/3 body. Then you have class specific counters like Rasha's Curse and Artifact Defiler which are even more devastating to Artifact decks.

Overall I think it'll just be more of a for fun card, but I do hope they make it less random before release.
so is there some way I can disable animations? like particular animations at most but ill take it for all if I can because you see I just lost my last gauntlet match I had had the minion with death watch that summons little feelers who died and then I had enougher in till I had an hilarious amount of them.....and then I decided to cast the aoe damage and healing spell.......and then my frame rate tanked to shit and then I ran out of time......and id already cast an aoe damage buff so yea I'm a little pissed of right now.
I've seen streamers speed up the animation but I don't know how. All I know is that you can make your moves a lot more efficient and fast by turning on a setting in the option that let's you move and attack with a minion without reselecting it, which has saved me from losing my turn many times.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #216 on: June 26, 2016, 07:59:06 am »
I've seen streamers speed up the animation but I don't know how. All I know is that you can make your moves a lot more efficient and fast by turning on a setting in the option that let's you move and attack with a minion without reselecting it, which has saved me from losing my turn many times.
I don't know if there are other settings to do it, but it possible to click to move a unit, then before the unit finishes moving, click on the empty destination tile to order the attack.  I do this a lot when doing 4-5 wraithling mob attacks or other mass moves.  Can totally fall apart of something doesn't go as expected, though... not that I would ever screw up like that, though.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #217 on: June 26, 2016, 08:46:14 am »
hey so I was just on their reddit and theres a ton of of complaining about some card called grincher who apparently gives you a random artefact and discounts it by 2 so I just thought id ask what you think of that personally id remove the discount and make it limited to your own faction realy the possibility of getting enougher factions artefact is to unbalancing for me and you really don't need a discount seeing as how getting an extra artefact and a body is pretty darn strong already in opinion obviously.
I agree with you personally but honestly I don't think the card, even in its current form will be used that much. That's because at 5 mana its stats are less than mediocre and the weapon it gives you is unreliable. It could be amazing, it could be useless. But the bigger problem is that people are already using a lot of artifacts so Rust Crawler is already pretty common in the metagame, which is a 2 drop that destroys a weapon and gives a 2/3 body. Then you have class specific counters like Rasha's Curse and Artifact Defiler which are even more devastating to Artifact decks.

Overall I think it'll just be more of a for fun card, but I do hope they make it less random before release.
so is there some way I can disable animations? like particular animations at most but ill take it for all if I can because you see I just lost my last gauntlet match I had had the minion with death watch that summons little feelers who died and then I had enougher in till I had an hilarious amount of them.....and then I decided to cast the aoe damage and healing spell.......and then my frame rate tanked to shit and then I ran out of time......and id already cast an aoe damage buff so yea I'm a little pissed of right now.
I've seen streamers speed up the animation but I don't know how. All I know is that you can make your moves a lot more efficient and fast by turning on a setting in the option that let's you move and attack with a minion without reselecting it, which has saved me from losing my turn many times.
  1 fair enough I think the real reason people are antsy on the rebbit is because there afraid of the game slowly going down the same path as hs and considering how most of their player base are people who started playing because it didn't have the things in hs they then its fair for them to get antsy how ever I think its fine for some cards to have less predictable effects stops things from getting stale really
they've also been complaining about some card called reaper something to be honest I'm not realy sure what there talking about there but ill check today if its in the game or up coming card

2  that sounds really use full but its probably just an effect for the viewer I wouldn't be surprised if its just the same for the player but I only want this for aoes really since they can really tank your frame rate when there's a lot of targets involved also just for this instance id prefer it if the timer stopped when you took actions like in hs in this instance getting punished for trying to think things through like that just seems cheap to me
but I presume people like this or the devs probably would have changed it already.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #218 on: June 27, 2016, 02:51:23 pm »
Hey Wingflier, any good tips how to improve these two decks?
Abyssian
Magmar

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #219 on: June 27, 2016, 03:10:59 pm »
I think I might just go play that for a change from what I'm usually playing just so long as it doesn't try to hard to scare not that I get scared easily the opposite in fact usually when games try really hard to scare It comes of as annoying to me
a game that has managed to scare me though funnily enough is a sort of roguey game called duskers  http://store.steampowered.com/app/254320/ a game were your operating drone from your ship after an epidemic and scavenging things like fuel scrap other drones and upgrades from derelict ships you have 2 views one were you have a view of the entire map and enougher  were you your view is from the top of a drone were you can barely make out what anything is its a great game and among other things very atmospheric
it is on sale  also but only for 15 percent though for those wondering.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #220 on: June 27, 2016, 03:39:30 pm »
that reminds me I really need to go and actually play magmar for a bit even though I've been digging my besties right now(abyssians sand people and the vanar)
also has anybody else been reading the codex? its super interesting and so far tells you the origins of each faction asides from the abyssians makes me wonder when they came to be a thing regarding to the present in the time line.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #221 on: June 27, 2016, 08:42:25 pm »
Hey Wingflier, any good tips how to improve these two decks?
Abyssian
Magmar
The Abyssian one:

-Planar Scout is a bad card.
-Necroseer is a bad card.
-Too many spells/artifacts. Generally speaking you want to keep your spells and artifacts at no more than 1/3rd of your deck, so that's about 13 max.

+Needs more Demonic Lure. Demonic Lure is one of the best spells in the game, always take 3.
+Needs Primus Fist. Primus Fist a great 2 drop and fits really well into spammy decks.
+Replace Stormmetal Golem with First Sword of Akrane.
+Gloomchaser is an amazing 2 drop, you should put 3 in there.
+If you have any more Bloodmoon Priestess or Shadowdancers, add them.

Here's my revision, adding only common cards to what you already had in there.



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The Magmar one:

-Dance of Dreams is a bad card.
-Kinetic Equilibrium is a less than mediocre card, fitting only into specific builds. I've never seen it outside of Gauntlet.
-Dragonlark and Planar Scouts are bad cards.
-Phalanxar is a bad card.
-Earthwalker is a bad card.
-Lux Ignis is a less than mediocre card, fitting only into specific builds.

+Needs Young Silithar, one of the best 2-drops in the game.
+Needs more Veteran Silithar, one of the best 4-drops in the game.
+Needs Jaxi, one of the best 2-drops in the game.

Here are the changes I made, adding only common cards:



This is very similar to one of the budget Magmar decks I used to climb a lot of rank when I didn't have a lot of cards.

With Jaxi and Vale Hunter you technically have 6 ranged minions. When you take one of the 6 ranged minions and give it Greater Fortitude or Primordial Gazer, they become god-tier ranged units very quickly, and are extremely difficult to deal with. Use the Greater Fortitude and Primordial Gazer to buff ranged units or to buff Silverspine Tigers so that they can kill something in a single turn, or attack the General, and live. You can pretty much buff anything in your lineup, but the ranged units, Elucidator, and the tigers are the best targets. Hide your ranged units at the edge of the map and continue picking off enemy threats. Keep buffing your general with his bloodborn spell, use Adamantine Claws to attack the enemy general, and Earth Sphere for when you need healing. You should win the war of attrition.

« Last Edit: June 27, 2016, 08:44:57 pm by Wingflier »
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #222 on: June 27, 2016, 09:45:54 pm »
Why do you actually think Planar Scout is a bad card? He is very good in the first few rounds.
Also, why remove Deepfire Devourer? He is a very good card with a big stat potential. even if he kills only 2 minions, which is always possible with this general, he gets already +4/+4. This would make 8/8 plus Frenzy for him.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #223 on: June 28, 2016, 12:39:30 am »
The issue with Deepfire Devourer is that it's such a magnet for dispels and hard removals. I guess having one in the deck is fine, but any more than that is just kind of asking to get screwed.

The problem with Planar Scout is that he's pretty useless after the first 1 or 2 turns. I suppose having a minion that can airdrop is pretty nice on turn one, but after that he's just cannon fodder. At 1 hp he's a perfect target for Bloodtear Alchemist, which everybody seems to be running these days, and he's also food for Cassvya's bloodborn spell, which basically means you're giving her free shadow creep. Bloodtear Alchemist is a much better card if you have to have a 1 drop.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #224 on: June 28, 2016, 01:26:43 am »
Okay, I tested the new deck and it's definitely better than before. I am currently on a 6 games win streak. So thanks a lot for your help, I'm still very new/noobish to the game.

I didn't had every card you said, so I improvised a little. Overall however I think it's a good base for a deck. I still haven't many cards, not even one of the sisters.
What are your thoughts on Tethermancer? I've put one in the deck.
And what cards would you suggest for crawing additional cards?

Edit: I ask maybe to much but can you show me some good base decks for the other factions as well? This would help me to better understand how the different factions work and what they need.
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