Love the name! :D

[steelwing]

So we've settled on the Last Hydral still being around, having preserved himself in some way?

[x4000]

Oh yeah, that's been the plan since shortly after TLF came out.

And I'm glad you like the name!  I'm really excited about it, too.   Huge kudos to Watashiwa for helping figure that one out, it took a lot of back and forth.

[crazyroosterman]

So we've settled on the Last Hydral still being around, having preserved himself in some way?

  agree with you on the name the last one didn't roll of the tongue very well and I don't think he's preserved him self I think hydrals are just generally immortal.(I could be wrong of course thou)

[Aklyon]

I like the title too. Though it also sounds like the sort of title you could shout if you swapped out the words after the colon. Like Starward Rogue, scourge of the galaxy! Hydral Mercenary!

[crazyroosterman]

so went he description says at the end of the universe does that mean the total death of it or the very end?.(one of at very least)

[x4000]

Haha, I love that with the shouting bit.

As to the end of the universe, it's basically "near the heat death of the universe."  Now, I'm not sure I subscribe to the idea that there even will be a heat death of the universe -- physicists are divided on that in general at this point, from what I've read -- but for story purposes it's a pretty cool idea and so that's the setting of this particular game.  In the context of this game, probably after the universe hits a certain point it heats up, condenses back into an infinitely small point, and we get another big bang, resulting in a fresh universe.

All very tangentially related, because whatever the case that won't be happening during the end of this game.  Still a tiny bit of time left before that: some millions of years, perhaps.  But socially and resource-wise and so on the effects of knowingly being near the collapse of everything is pretty interesting.

[crazyroosterman]

Haha, I love that with the shouting bit.

As to the end of the universe, it's basically "near the heat death of the universe."  Now, I'm not sure I subscribe to the idea that there even will be a heat death of the universe -- physicists are divided on that in general at this point, from what I've read -- but for story purposes it's a pretty cool idea and so that's the setting of this particular game.  In the context of this game, probably after the universe hits a certain point it heats up, condenses back into an infinitely small point, and we get another big bang, resulting in a fresh universe.

All very tangentially related, because whatever the case that won't be happening during the end of this game.  Still a tiny bit of time left before that: some millions of years, perhaps.  But socially and resource-wise and so on the effects of knowingly being near the collapse of everything is pretty interesting.

this has made me wonder what is at the edge of the universe I mean there must be something also this has made me wonder how many of the races we currently know about are still breathing I mean some like the spire and zenith most probably are but then with some others it is a bit questionable.

[x4000]

Most likely for the base game of this one this will only include the Hydral as the only recognizable race.  It's possible that in some expansion, if there ever is one, we might explore some of what happened to the other races.  But mostly what you'll be seeing here is new stuff except for the Hydral, which I think is really appropriate for the incredibly-distant in time and space setting.

In terms of what is at the edge of the universe I don't think in this model of it it is possible to get there.  We have established FTL travel thanks to wormholes, but to my knowledge the Hydral doesn't have that particular tech, which is surprisingly rare in the universe of AI War/TLF/SBR/SR -- the fact that it is such a big part of AI War is actually anomalous, and plays into the story of SBR a bit.  You'll notice nobody in TLF has that tech.

[crazyroosterman]

Most likely for the base game of this one this will only include the Hydral as the only recognizable race.  It's possible that in some expansion, if there ever is one, we might explore some of what happened to the other races.  But mostly what you'll be seeing here is new stuff except for the Hydral, which I think is really appropriate for the incredibly-distant in time and space setting.

In terms of what is at the edge of the universe I don't think in this model of it it is possible to get there.  We have established FTL travel thanks to wormholes, but to my knowledge the Hydral doesn't have that particular tech, which is surprisingly rare in the universe of AI War/TLF/SBR/SR -- the fact that it is such a big part of AI War is actually anomalous, and plays into the story of SBR a bit.  You'll notice nobody in TLF has that tech.

1 I wasn't really making any hints I was just curious really getting to find out would be neat though

2 I was actually thinking more in general not just in that world but our own really yea know the things you keep saying about stars are just making me more excited for when it is (eventually) .finished to be honest though providing the hydral hasn't had any persifick goals or purpose in mind  then I don't think he really needs worm hole tech considering he's immortal and even if his ship wears out he/she can always acquire enougher one.(by the way I remember seeing a theory on a YouTube video of tlf  once that the hydrals different head multi gender as in each one having an individual conciseness is that cannon at all? or is that yet enougher thing that's set to be revelled?)

[Bluddy]

Just a question: what does being at the end of the universe contribute to the setting of the game? For some reason, the 'end of the universe' associates within my weird brain with anxiety and sadness. Kind of the emptiness of everything -- implying there's nothing there, nothing rich to explore anymore, everything that could be has been, and all possibilities are lost in time, together with all the dead nations/people. I hated the Dr Who episodes that took place at the end of the universe for that reason. It all feels very nihilistic to me.

So I'm just wondering -- what is it that made you choose this setting, and what does it bring to the game?

[keith.lamothe]

Just a question: what does being at the end of the universe contribute to the setting of the game?

I hear there's an excellent restaurant there.


(no that has nothing to do with the game, sadly)

[Captain Jack]

Just a question: what does being at the end of the universe contribute to the setting of the game? For some reason, the 'end of the universe' associates within my weird brain with anxiety and sadness. Kind of the emptiness of everything -- implying there's nothing there, nothing rich to explore anymore, everything that could be has been, and all possibilities are lost in time, together with all the dead nations/people. I hated the Dr Who episodes that took place at the end of the universe for that reason. It all feels very nihilistic to me.

So I'm just wondering -- what is it that made you choose this setting, and what does it bring to the game?

Not Chris so I can't speak for him, but I figured that was the entire point! How many creative works have immortals in them? Lots of fantasy, some sci-fi. How many games deal with what happens to them when the universe starts running down? Doctor Who and uh... not much else. What's there is kind of grim. But it shouldn't have to be!

Consider the Hydral himself: billions of years old, his life's work certainly gone by this point, the aliens around him are so incredibly, well, alien that the best he can do is steal parts and get away from their wars, and he's still the last Hydral in the universe. And yet even with that weight to carry on top of the approaching end, there's still mercenary work to do, civilizations to destroy, opportunities for (time) travel, aliens to Federate, ships to repair and places to be. Only the last two are relevant to the game (for now >D), but the fact that he's still plugging away should indicate that there's value in living at the end. Perhaps it's fatalist, but it shouldn't feel nihilist.

Put another way: it's the end of the universe as we know it, but it's fine. 

EDIT: And for the record, Chris picked the name, I voted a slightly different direction.

[Tolc]

Yay, the Hydral is back! Big fan as you can guess from my avatar

In that sense: It's the end of the universe as we know it, but I feel fine

[crazyroosterman]

Just a question: what does being at the end of the universe contribute to the setting of the game? For some reason, the 'end of the universe' associates within my weird brain with anxiety and sadness. Kind of the emptiness of everything -- implying there's nothing there, nothing rich to explore anymore, everything that could be has been, and all possibilities are lost in time, together with all the dead nations/people. I hated the Dr Who episodes that took place at the end of the universe for that reason. It all feels very nihilistic to me.

So I'm just wondering -- what is it that made you choose this setting, and what does it bring to the game?

Not Chris so I can't speak for him, but I figured that was the entire point! How many creative works have immortals in them? Lots of fantasy, some sci-fi. How many games deal with what happens to them when the universe starts running down? Doctor Who and uh... not much else. What's there is kind of grim. But it shouldn't have to be!

Consider the Hydral himself: billions of years old, his life's work certainly gone by this point, the aliens around him are so incredibly, well, alien that the best he can do is steal parts and get away from their wars, and he's still the last Hydral in the universe. And yet even with that weight to carry on top of the approaching end, there's still mercenary work to do, civilizations to destroy, opportunities for (time) travel, aliens to Federate, ships to repair and places to be. Only the last two are relevant to the game (for now >D), but the fact that he's still plugging away should indicate that there's value in living at the end. Perhaps it's fatalist, but it shouldn't feel nihilist.

Put another way: it's the end of the universe as we know it, but it's fine. 

EDIT: And for the record, Chris picked the name, I voted a slightly different direction.

is that theory of the hydrals heads each having their own individual conciseness a cannon thing?. also did the hydral put him self in the middle of this war for a persifick reason or was he wandering on by and decide to get involved? also if the universes ending if I were him id try and leave and see what's out side it.

[crazyroosterman]

Yay, the Hydral is back! Big fan as you can guess from my avatar

In that sense: It's the end of the universe as we know it, but I feel fine

personally I'm glad to see some closure with now I know he didn't get blown up after leaving the galaxy in tlf.