Developer question: What god powers or mythological tokens don't you use?

[x4000]

For reference, check out the god tokens and mythological tokens tabs here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsfZzm_H0G2RdEJGY2lBZHhaVlhscDk4dV9oa3Y5U1E&usp=sharing

Which ones have you been avoiding?  I need to come up with compelling reasons for you not to avoid them.  The warfare points cap isn't a great idea, so instead:
- Either some secondary benefit to using this crazy power on yourself (score used to be the benefit, but that no longer works except as a cosmetic).
- Or some sort of woe that is only showing up when you have access to this item, which this item counters.

[Cinth]

This one is kinda hard. Hrm.

Norse tokens:
Ullr's Rune Stone..  I haven't had a bandit town since crime was pulled though there is a woe that makes this one usable (Revolution).

Njord's Coins.. This token can be negated completely by not placing trade posts.  Trade (and diplomacy) can be completely ignored for the entire duration.

Looking at the Greek tokens I don't see anything that catches me as something I wouldn't throw out if the situation warranted it.

I did catch 3 tool tip errors in the Greeks.  Poseidon's Chariot and Hermes Talaria mention that they "drop" range to 2 where as now they "increase" range to 2.  Pan's passive is now 50% so the wording on the passive is a bit off.

Something I caught whilst tooling around the sandbox...    Are bandit keeps supposed to be able to escape the wrath of the gods?  Heimdall's Hofund specifically states it destroys all military producers for all factions.

[PokerChen]

The hoop snake that is Midgard. Way too random.
Forget is close, but this is because Norsemen have not been winning in
my prior plays..
Now that Gods are helpless and only much good. for tokens, Fenrir.
Other tokens I am willing to use.

I think I am willing to use all of the God tokens except:
- Pan & Heimdall's destroy buildings tokens. I. won't be making the mistakes. that justify these.
- Odin's Gungnir. Same reason as Fenrir.

General theme: very few conditions in the current version encourage players to destroy red/blue buildings.

[x4000]

Okay, I think I hit all of those here: http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Skyward_Collapse_-_Pre-Beta_Release_Notes#Mythological_and_God_Token_Updates

With a few exceptions.  And one of those is addressed by the following:
* The number of god deaths are now tracked on the score tooltip, and you get a whopping 5,000 points per each god killed.

Not that score is a key thing, at least not yet, but now there is some reason to kill gods whereas before there was literally none unless you wanted their passive to stop.

[Cinth]

Thumbs up form me. 

[x4000]

Sweet.

[Misery]

Yggdrasil:   I seriously just have no idea of what strategic use this might have.  Particularly late in the game, since it sounds like it'd just cover most of the board in random units which would then go randomly berserk at each other.

Fenrir:  Havent needed to kill a god.  Even moreso now that they do not defend areas with crazy attacks, this is totally useless.

Brokkr:  The Norse pretty much already have a powerful "decrease/remove cost" ability in Norns, so this is kinda redundant, and also by the time I could really pay his cost, I probably just dont need it anymore.

And it's not a "token", but I still have no use for the Elf.   It's weaker (by quite a bit) than the Ice Giant, and it's ability simply does not make up for that.  Valkyrie is pretty much the same here.  I pretty much stick to just the giants and trolls.

Hebe:  I've simply never had a need for it.

Labyrinth:  Not entirely sure on this one.   I havent unlocked the ability to actually use the minotaurs yet, not without Cornucopia in play, so I've never touched this.   But it seems like I'd need quite a number of those guys in play before this one would make any sense at all.

[Cinth]

Fenrir:  Havent needed to kill a god.  Even moreso now that they do not defend areas with crazy attacks, this is totally useless.

Idunn and Apollo make a nasty pair of passives for the Norse.  I'd kill Apollo over that.

[Misery]

Fenrir:  Havent needed to kill a god.  Even moreso now that they do not defend areas with crazy attacks, this is totally useless.

Idunn and Apollo make a nasty pair of passives for the Norse.  I'd kill Apollo over that.

Hmm, that's a good point;  I havent really had to deal too much with nasty passives, so that might do with more experimentation.

It does seem EXTREMELY situational though, very unflexible, as abilities and such go.

[Cinth]

Well, I might want to kill off Pan too.  Fenrir might be situational in it's usage but it gives you one powerful way to attack the gods.

[x4000]

Also, Fenrir is now really useful if you want a very high score from killing off gods.

[orzelek]

I really wanted to try and kill a god. It even spawned inside Norse territory.
But then I got black death to a knee.

[Cinth]

But then I got black death to a knee.

Black Death killed me in my last game.  Then again... it is supposed to right?

[Teal_Blue]

Whoa!!!   This seems very COOL now!!!

[orzelek]

But then I got black death to a knee.

Black Death killed me in my last game.  Then again... it is supposed to right?

I'm not sure what it is supposed to do. It's not even Fun.
I simply left the game. I have save 1 turn before it hits but that won't help much.
When you have nothing except few resources and enemy population exceeds 100 plus bandits.. I don't see a point. And since woes are map tied - when you start the game there is a chance for guaranteed loss. It's not a nice feature tbh.