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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2012, 01:31:23 pm »
"In what possible way could screw up that game? I mean, really?"
Thanks to Electronic Arse and Bugisoft I will never do anything like that ever again. I will also never buy their games ever again.

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 01:34:37 pm »
I don't really agree with any of the major reviewers or reviewer outlets, but I think I have much different tastes than most people as well.

Concerning Carrier Command:  I was excited about that game too, but being $60, I decided to do some research on it before I purchased it.

First Metacritic - When neither the Critics or the Fans like the game, it's a big warning sign.

Second the Steam Page - Single-Player only...ouch.  $60 for a single-player game is untenable for me, I refuse to do it.

Thirdly, the website - Okay so here we have this Carrier that goes around the archipelago, that's neat.  It can build units and...

Wait, exactly how many different types of units can it build?  Holy crap, it can build 1 helijet, 1 type of tank, and some kind of drone thing?  I'm supposed to spend hundreds of hours playing this with 3 (albeit modifiable) units and a Carrier?  I don't think so. 

Then I started trying to find some information about the game's AI (which will basically be your opponent for all those lonely hours), and I didn't hear anything good.

After I review all the relevant sources of research, I put a price together in my head for how much I think the game is worth, then compare it to the game's actual cost, then decide whether I want to buy it.  For Carrier Command in its current state?  $5

BTW Keith, what was your favorite game that got bad reviews?
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 01:52:41 pm »
I played the original 1984 game for DOS for months :P So I had my rose-tinted nostalgia eyes on.
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 02:13:50 pm »
Can we please quit using Metacritic? That website is the worst form of evil in the videogame industry. Even worse than dare I say EA. And that's saying something. I wish people would quit relying on it.

Also, why is it bad if a game is single player? Plenty of AAA games are single player that are $60 and are quite good. Or are you referring to simply Carrier Command?
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 02:16:51 pm »
If Carrier Command did work properly, I'd actually say it's worth it. The concept is great, and they've managed to retain the gameplay from the original very well (if you set aside that hilariously bad FPS part in the opening of the campaign)
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 02:18:21 pm »
Even worse than dare I say EA.
I know that must have been hard for you ;)
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 02:25:35 pm »
Even worse than dare I say EA.
I know that must have been hard for you ;)

hah! ;) Yeah, well, at least EA pays its employees....AFAIK
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 02:31:33 pm »
I just find it ridiculus to put a coarse score on anything like that :P

"This game is a distinct 86 out of 100".

Right...that tells me absolutely nothing.
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2012, 05:28:11 pm »
Oh nice, and just 10 months after release!
Hey now, at least they didn't just drop it ;)  Not saying that gets a free pass, of course.

*cough* Legends of Pegasus *cough*

Well, I've actually been eagerly waiting for the "all clear" as I rather enjoyed the first SotS, I suppose I'll have to reinstall it now and tell you guys how it is.

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2012, 05:45:07 pm »
Oh nice, and just 10 months after release!
Hey now, at least they didn't just drop it ;)  Not saying that gets a free pass, of course.

*cough* Legends of Pegasus *cough*

Well, I've actually been eagerly waiting for the "all clear" as I rather enjoyed the first SotS, I suppose I'll have to reinstall it now and tell you guys how it is.
Well thank you very much!

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2012, 07:40:26 pm »
I find no single review to be completely accurate for any game.

I use metacritic like I use Wikipedia for serious research: It is a useful shortcut for various reviews and for a snapshot big picture, but as a whole is not to be blindly trusted. Some digging is required to get an accurate picture. For example, a single review saying a game is short is not reliable, a dozen reviews from varying sources is more reliable.

The big picture stuff is a useful tool in some situations. A game with 90+ ratings leads me to directly find reviews that describe the experience, games with 70ish ratings signal I need to read more deeply into what the flaws are (and if I don't mind, or even like, said flaws). Games with higher published reviews but lower players review is a red flag and discouraging, but the reverse is a signal for what I might read further up on then I would otherwise.

To conclude, the more you dig from the more sources, the more I find an accurate picture. However, the player must always have the final say.

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2012, 07:44:02 pm »
I do like TotalBiscuit's channel a good bit. While I don't necessarily take what he says to heart, I do get a good idea of weather or not I'll like a game simply by watching him play it.

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2012, 08:02:24 pm »
It is rather amusing to see him fail horribly at puzzles and puzzle/platformers.

I sometimes wonder if he does that on purpose or not.

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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2012, 09:26:19 pm »
I like TotalBiscuit, but also dislike him because he's not enough of a critic.

Literally every game I've ever seen him review he raves about how good it is.  Well god, every game can't be good can it? 

He just doesn't seem like he has very high standards at all.  As long as the game is pretty and plays well for the 30 minutes or so he'll give a good review, which is really kind of disappointing because I know some of the games he plays are garbage.  I'd really like a reviewer who is just absolutely brutal with every game they play, and instead of pointing out all the strengths, focuses more on the flaws.  This would be a nice change of pace with everybody else essentially doing the opposite.
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Re: SoTS 2 "All Clear" Issued
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2012, 09:34:37 pm »
I like TotalBiscuit, but also dislike him because he's not enough of a critic.

Literally every game I've ever seen him review he raves about how good it is.  Well god, every game can't be good can it? 

He just doesn't seem like he has very high standards at all.  As long as the game is pretty and plays well for the 30 minutes or so he'll give a good review, which is really kind of disappointing because I know some of the games he plays are garbage.  I'd really like a reviewer who is just absolutely brutal with every game they play, and instead of pointing out all the strengths, focuses more on the flaws.  This would be a nice change of pace with everybody else essentially doing the opposite.

Well, he'll tell you he's not a reviewer. He does first impressions, not reviews. And, I've seen him do games that he doesn't like. Go watch his video on SnuggleTruck, for example. :)