Wiki Updates: Individual Ship Pages

[Diazo]

Alright.

With the changes to the ship caps, every individual ship page has to be redone.

As part of this, what changes would people like to see?

The individual ship pages were the first pages I did on the wiki and they kind of just got stuck in my original layout and never got any revisions at the time.

I've seen some comments in unrelated threads about tweaks people would like to see but can not remember them as the moment so here's your chance to get the changes you want in.

Note that this thread is for the individual unit pages only, the Ancient Shadows stuff is also on the list but will be waiting for the official release before those get serious work. The navigation templates will probably also get tweaked at some point.

Here is the unit page for the Fighter that I am talking about.

D.

[Kahuna]

I think the layout is perfect. I'd like to see Cap Health though.
Basic Turrets damage is wrong. It's actually Damage x 3. It shoots 3 times. Same thing with Leech Starships. They shoot 6 times.

[Diazo]

Cap health should be easy.

The ship cap column will be moving to the top next to hull type as it is now the same across all marks so room should not be an issue.

On the multiple attacks, that was the biggest thing wrong with my original setup, had to add those in manually the first time around and I missed a few.

That will be automated this time around aswell however so those will all get cleared up.

D.

[keith.lamothe]

The ship cap column will be moving to the top next to hull type as it is now the same across all marks so room should not be an issue.

FYI, the Neinzul Scapegoat still does the thing where its stats stay the same but its cap goes up (linearly) by mark.  Just to make documentation a pain, naturally.

[Hearteater]

Is there any way to put the basic info (in the first table) to the flush-right of the icon image in a vertical layout?  Also, can the table borders get compressed so they aren't double lines?  So style="border-collapse: collapse;" on the <table> tag.

[Diazo]

Okay.

Is this what you mean for the border?

See the Combat Stats table.

However, I have no clue what you mean by "flush-right of the icon"?

More details please?

D.

[Hearteater]

Borders look much nicer.  Here is the other suggestion in image form.

[Diazo]

Ah, I see what you mean.

I'm not sure I could automate that without losing the descriptions however so I'm not sure. (Stuff like the Golems and Fallen Spire have a lot of extra text I added in there that I would lose.)

I may do a test on one of the starships or guardians that have a lot of immunities to see how it looks, it may end up too long.

Note that the ship pages don't have a 'right' column, if that Right-Flush box ends up getting tall it is going to push the rest of the page down. (Or can you point me to where the code for that column would be? I'll try google myself this evening.)

I'll post my attempts for feedback when I get to them in a couple hours.

D.

[Bognor]

Mmm, Hearteater's layout looks great.

A few minor suggestions to keep things neat:
"Single Ship DPS" --> "Ship DPS"
"Ship Cap DPS" --> "Cap DPS"
"Ship Cap Build Time" --> "Cap Build Time"

Also "Armor type" should be "Hull type".

Thanks for taking on the hard work Diazo! 

Edit: I really like the changes to the "Ships and Structures" table.  Much clearer.  Maybe in the "Fleet ships" box, the triangle ships could be moved to the top on a line of their own, and perhaps bolded or in some other way made to stand out?

[Kahuna]

Borders look much nicer.  Here is the other suggestion in image form.

Ammo, Armor, Immunities and Damage Bonuses are too separated from the "Base Stats".

[Hearteater]

That would be because those are the stats that are never affected by Mark .  On the other stats, would it look better to have the two stat blocks have single ship stats on top, and cap stats on the bottom, with the columns lining up?

[Diazo]

Borders look much nicer.  Here is the other suggestion in image form.

Ammo, Armor, Immunities and Damage Bonuses are too separated from the "Base Stats".

Assuming you are talking about Hearteaters suggested layout, this is my concern also.

Because I run a high res wide screen we are talking about a white space measured in inches between the two blocks for me.

I'm still going to make it up just so ppl can acutally see it but I'm not supporting it at the moment.

That would be because those are the stats that are never affected by Mark .  On the other stats, would it look better to have the two stat blocks have single ship stats on top, and cap stats on the bottom, with the columns lining up?

I don't think so, you then have Mk I ship stats in even more locations which I don't think is a good thing.

I already have two seperate stat blocks for combat and economic, so splitting it out further would have stats for the same Mk I ship in four different locations on the page.

Off to experiment.

D.

[Diazo]

Okay.

Fighter page as is with just the table tweak.
Fighter Page with the Right-Flush table as I understand the request.
Fighter Page with the Right-Flush table and the immunities copied from a golem.

Looking at those three comments please?

I will not post my opinion until later to avoid influencing people.

D.

[Bossman]

The right-flush table doesn't work at all with a 1080P resolution. There's too much white space between the description and the tables. And most ship descriptions are too short to draw the eye to the right side of the screen where the table is.

[Kahuna]

Okay.

Fighter page as is with just the table tweak.
Fighter Page with the Right-Flush table as I understand the request.
Fighter Page with the Right-Flush table and the immunities copied from a golem.

Looking at those three comments please?

I will not post my opinion until later to avoid influencing people.

D.

The first one is perfect. It's compact and easy and fast to read.
In 2nd and 3rd Ammo, Armor, Immunities and Damage Bonuses are too separated from the "Base Stats".