AI War Beta 5.077-5.079 "Cap Tectonics" Released!

[LordSloth]

Sudden recollection:

Normal+Champion & Team Control is rather distracting. I can hear my teammate issuing move orders to my champion, and if they're microing in a nebula... I need to consider a reserved for champion slot instead. But I'd like to not have interface sounds for a teammate microing my units.

[Hearteater]

Possibly related to this issue with Helper mode?

[TechSY730]

Sudden recollection:

Normal+Champion & Team Control is rather distracting. I can hear my teammate issuing move orders to my champion, and if they're microing in a nebula... I need to consider a reserved for champion slot instead. But I'd like to not have interface sounds for a teammate microing my units.

Long standing issue. The "unit bleep" sound plays for the player who owns the unit receiving an order, rather than the player that gave the order. Very annoying.
Probably on mantis somewhere.

The exception is for Helper players, which play the sound for them. But as they are viewing another UI, the unit management sounds of the player they are "switched to" gets piped to them as well. So, they get to hear it again when the host gets around to executing the order (or at least I think that is what is happening). Thus leading to the issue mentioned above.

[chemical_art]

I can't decide if Keith is working on AVWW or SH right now.

[keith.lamothe]

I can't decide if Keith is working on AVWW or SH right now.

For about a week I was working on not-being-sick, then for about 4 days I was working on AVWW-design, and yesterday and today I've been back on AIW.

[Eternaly_Lost]

I just saw this in the next change log

Ships with engine damage now automatically repair their own engines, such that it takes a bit over four minutes to go from 0% engine-health to 100% engine-health.
Basically, until now it's been too easy to long-term-disable AI ships via engine damage. Not many players abused this thoroughly, but some definitely did, to hilarious (and disappointing, from a challenge perspective) results.
But tactical usage should still be very viable for kiting around a planet, spreading out an incoming attack, etc.
Thanks to many players (who may wish to remain nameless) for feedback over the past several months pointing to this being necessary.

I am so happy as so often I would wander over to find a single ship on a planet somewhere with 0 engines and I needed to get something over to repair it. This change makes me very happy.

[TechSY730]

So, now that there is a bonus "starship type", are there any plans for refactoring the "I can't believe I'm not a starship" Spire bonus types (ships with a cap <=5) to be built at the starship constructor?

Also, will the AI be able to get Spire Corvettes? If so, will they seed in waves and reinforcements like normal ships or like starships?

[keith.lamothe]

So, now that there is a bonus "starship type", are there any plans for refactoring the "I can't believe I'm not a starship" Spire bonus types (ships with a cap <=5) to be built at the starship constructor?

I figured I would be asked that question quickly, but not quite that quickly

Right now I'm just leaving stuff where it is; the main reason the Spire Corvette is in the starship constructor is the modular thing and thus needing its own tab.  We'll see how that works out before considering moving anything else.  I anticipate bug reports of "I unlocked the spire corvette and can't find it anywhere", but not sure how to avoid it.

Also, will the AI be able to get Spire Corvettes? If so, will they seed in waves and reinforcements like normal ships or like starships?

It should seed them like starships; they won't send a wave of them, though they could send them as the "starship of the wave".

[TechSY730]

Not sure if you have seen this, but the balancing of the new bonus types reminded me of this question:
9344: Spire Railcluster Polycrystal hull seems strange with light hull damage bonus

[keith.lamothe]

I've seen it, but I don't share the sentiment that two ship types should not both be good at killing the other one of the pair.

[keith.lamothe]

New one

[TechSY730]

I've seen it, but I don't share the sentiment that two ship types should not both be good at killing the other one of the pair.

Fair enough. I was just wondering if it was intentional, or an oversight.

It just struck me as odd, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't an accident. Thanks for clarifying though.

[pheonix89]

Oh, cool. Bonus starships, and they're modular. Say, is the Spire corvette going to have 3 mks or 4? I ask mainly because it occurs to me that as a starship, advanced factories wouldn't be building the mk 4 if it exists.

[Lancefighter]

theyre pretty strong for a mk1 ship tbh - I doubt we will be getting mk4 of them >_>

the files only have a single 'bonusspirecorvette' image, so thats not much help