Super forts are great! Except...

[chemical_art]

Their default build speed is too high! 18 million each is an acceptable price.

But the building cost of over 5k per second? Ridicolous in how often I have to start and stop its construction without killing my economy.

I understand that having a build cost of 2K per second will have it build for 2 and a half hours, but nothing is stopping you from using engineers to build it faster.

In the meanwhile, I can build:
Armor nullifier
Armor booster
2x OMD
Black hole machines

for less then a super fort in terms of rate. Right now its quite micro intensive.

[This drunk message brought to you by...frustration! A major innovator of human kind.]

[Cinth]

Superfort construction rate is fine

[chemical_art]

Superfort construction rate is fine

Your economy can take 5.1k per second?

I'm asking this legitimately. All the other Z-trader toys aside from Ion cannons cost 1k max.

[Cinth]

Radar Jammer Mk II cost around 2k per sec.

Remember I play 16 HW and I usually unlock Mk II harvesters early. My early econ is around 8k M+C per sec.

[chemical_art]

Radar Jammer Mk II cost around 2k per sec.

Remember I play 16 HW ...

I doubt anyone will agree that 16 HW is remotely considered a balance point for anything.

My OP proposal was to have the super fort build rate down to 2k as well, so about that of the Radar II jammer.

Nothing is stopping you from using some of your 16 caps of engineers to speed up the super fort construction if you want 

[keith.lamothe]

I'll just tune it down to 2k/sec or something like that.

And maybe change the tooltip cost line to "18 Economies".  j/k

[chemical_art]

I'll just tune it down to 2k/sec or something like that.

And maybe change the tooltip cost line to "18 Economies".  j/k

Yay!

[I find it hilarious if I can get a proposal through without Keith adding his "touches" that always seem to crop up]

[Kahuna]

Super Forts are way too expensive. I have never used them and never will.

[doctorfrog]

Super forts are too ugly. I'm never using them until they have Mickey Mouse ears.

[KDR_11k]

Super forts are too ugly. I'm never using them until they have Mickey Mouse ears.

I'm still waiting for my penguin-faced death star with a top hat.

actually I'm waiting for the Super Carrot but who's keeping track.

[Cinth]

Radar Jammer Mk II cost around 2k per sec.

Remember I play 16 HW ...

I doubt anyone will agree that 16 HW is remotely considered a balance point for anything.

My OP proposal was to have the super fort build rate down to 2k as well, so about that of the Radar II jammer.

Nothing is stopping you from using some of your 16 caps of engineers to speed up the super fort construction if you want 

Lulz. When I get to the point where I need to build them, I usually have an econ that can build 3 or 4 at once

Super forts are too ugly. I'm never using them until they have Mickey Mouse ears.

Build 2 miniforts and park them in appropriate positions around the superfort

[zoutzakje]

I don't care much about superforts myself. I hardly ever have to build regular forts, why bother with a super. Now I've had single homeworld economies that could handle 5k/s, but that was near the end of a big fallen spire campaign. And you really don't need any forts or superforts at that stage.