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Offline Draco18s

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 11:54:47 am »
The way I'd do it would be in a layout similar to the in-game tool tip.  Same arrangement of data.  And include both ship images (full zoom, and side bar icon).

Makes it easiest to read, really.

Offline BobTheJanitor

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 12:30:17 pm »
The xls format makes a little more sense to me, at least it's more readable at a glance than the csv dump. Although the csv does have more readable ship names in it. Some of the abbreviations that the excel dump uses can be kind of hard to puzzle out. I hadn't considered beta vs official releases, but that's a good point. Obviously not everyone is automatically clicking that update button every time it shows up like I do. If I can figure out a quick conversion, of course, it would be easy to update two different stats lists every time there's a change. Looks like it's going to require some research to figure out how to do it though. Right now, just taking the first ship in my list along with the column descriptions, we have something like this:

Type   Attack Ammo   Attack Power   Attack Range   Reload Speed   Speed   Health   Armor Rating   Armor Type   Engine Health   Metal Cost   Crystal Cost   Energy Cost   Ship Cap   Time To Build      Abilities   Immunities   Resource Generation   Description   Bonuses
Acid Sprayer I   Acid   900   2,500   2   50   154,000   900   Close-Combat   100   0   600   100   0   00:00:05      Armor Piercing 900   Immunities:    Missile Ammo    Sniper Shots    Blade Attacks      Fires an acid shot at close range. Excellent at dissolving unusual hull materials.   6 Neutron, 6 Refractive, 6 Composite, 6 Polycrystal

Which might as well be gibberish.

What we want is something more like this:

Acid Sprayer I
Attack Ammo: Acid  Attack Power: 900  Attack Range: 2,500  Reload Speed: 2  Speed: 50  Health: 154,000  Armor Rating: 900  Armor Type: Close-Combat  Engine Health: 100 Metal Cost: 0   Crystal Cost: 600    Energy Cost: 100  Ship Cap: 0  Time To Build: 00:00:05
Abilities: Armor Piercing 900
Immunities: Missile Ammo, Sniper Shots, Blade Attacks
Description: Fires an acid shot at close range. Excellent at dissolving unusual hull materials.
Bonuses: 6 Neutron, 6 Refractive, 6 Composite, 6 Polycrystal

Probably with some decorative formatting if possible, maybe some extra bolding and such for readability. Also my dump seems to have the wrong ship caps for some reason, but that's not the point right now. Now to just figure out how to automate something to create that in a wiki format...

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 01:03:44 pm »
I do find myself wishing for an 'easy to access' in-game ship encyclopedia.

One of the main complaints I hear against AI Wars is how inaccessible it is to new players and a concise encyclopedia of ships and concepts (which could obviously be drawn from the game itself, making much of the updating automatic) could really help to that end.

Offline syndicatedragon

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 02:41:09 pm »
Also, on the reference tab, if you mouseover the name of the ship in the leftmost column of the table (it's drawn as a button) it should display the normal tooltip as if you were looking at one in the game, though it has to omit a few pieces that only work in the context of being owned by a specific player.

Edit: ninja'd
This does not work for me. Here's what I'm doing. Press tab, shows galaxy map. Click Stats. Click Reference. Mousing over the ship names under the "Opponents" column highlights it (and I can click it to set it as the new comparison ship) but it doesn't show a tooltip. I've tried this on both Windows and Mac, version 5.000. What am I doing wrong?

Another question. Is there some documentation on what the comparison columns mean?

Offline Red Spot

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 03:38:06 pm »
About the first part. Do not check the reference tab from galaxy view, it doesnt show tooltips in galaxy view.

Offline syndicatedragon

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Re: Ship information in-game?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 03:47:19 pm »
About the first part. Do not check the reference tab from galaxy view, it doesnt show tooltips in galaxy view.
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