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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2012, 02:33:05 pm »
AI War.
The base game, then, and you wouldn't know whether your expansion keys would work because it wouldn't let you register them anyway without the base game.  I'll PM you in a moment.
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2012, 02:36:23 pm »
@zespri As for what Shadow did, if you don't know the details, why would you suggest that we emulate it?  I mean: what do you know about it that makes you think it's superior to our approach?
It worked for my situation. I purchase Din's curse aeons ago, and when it appeared on steam, all I had to do is ask Shadow for the key. Also it appears (again, I do not know for sure), that Din's curse does not require you to be online for activation. So it looks to me, like he is not following any of the three points, Chris posted above. Yet, it works, whereas with AI War not so much.

Do you understand why I think it's superior? I of course could have missed a downside, but then feel free to point it out.

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2012, 02:41:23 pm »
AI War.
The base game, then, and you wouldn't know whether your expansion keys would work because it wouldn't let you register them anyway without the base game.  I'll PM you in a moment.
Yes, thank you.
Update: Keith has helped me to register all my purchases. Now I can enjoy AI War and expansions on steam.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 02:53:53 pm by zespri »

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2012, 03:03:41 pm »
Ah, I see -- the reverse key approach. That is option 4, which I forgot about because it has nothing to do with key generation. What they are doing maintaining a database of customers who bought the game, and they have a repository of steam keys that they can automatically give out on request.

That works pretty well, but requires that the developer have a pretty large repository of steam keys, that they develop an online app for distributing them, and that the developer have records of keys sold. On that last point, we do not -- we have no idea who third parties have sold the game to, we only know our direct customers. If we made you register online on purchase that would be known, but that sort of system would be vulnerable to the same sort of piracy unless the key check was online rather than offline.

Also: for anyone else having problems with steam support, pm BurtonJ on the steam forums and he will generally hook you up. Steam support has been very iffy but he has been very reliable when it comes to this issue.

Anyway, not to belabor a point that is already moot for you zespri, but in case anyone else is reading along.
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2012, 01:29:58 pm »
Um.. so how can I keep my keys safe?
set /A diff=10
if %diff%==max (
   set /A me=:)
) else (
   set /A me=SadPanda
)
echo Check out my AI War strategy guide and find your inner Super Cat!
echo 2592 hours of AI War and counting!
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2012, 01:32:33 pm »
Um.. so how can I keep my keys safe?

The only worry at all is if pirates try to register your non-Steam key on Steam before you do.  If you bought through Steam, or already registered your key, or don't care to register your key, you're fine.
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2012, 02:56:46 pm »
Um.. so how can I keep my keys safe?

The only worry at all is if pirates try to register your non-Steam key on Steam before you do.  If you bought through Steam, or already registered your key, or don't care to register your key, you're fine.
Ah ok. Well I bought Ancient Shadows before it was released in Steam and pre purchased Ancient Shadows can't be activated on Steam. At least not yet. If/when it has been made possible I will have to activate it on Steam asap then.
set /A diff=10
if %diff%==max (
   set /A me=:)
) else (
   set /A me=SadPanda
)
echo Check out my AI War strategy guide and find your inner Super Cat!
echo 2592 hours of AI War and counting!
echo Kahuna matata!

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2012, 03:29:58 pm »
Hopefully AS activates on Steam before I leave. Two years is a long time for a pirate to stumble upon my number.

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2012, 03:32:05 pm »
Where are you going?
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2012, 03:38:35 pm »
On my mission. I am Mormon.

Amusingly I got called to Vegas. Those people definitely need it.  :P

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2012, 03:39:58 pm »
Ah, very cool.  I've stayed a week in Salt Lake City for a conference in the past, and had a chance to go through a lot of the Mormon areas.  Nice folks.
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2012, 03:44:51 pm »
We try. :)

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2012, 03:45:55 pm »
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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2012, 09:16:31 pm »
Sorry to drudge this up. Any word on if Steam will have the keys for the beta any time soon?

Thanks!

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Re: AI War 6.0 and Ancient Shadows Expansion Materialize on Steam
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2012, 10:31:26 pm »
Sorry to drudge this up. Any word on if Steam will have the keys for the beta any time soon?

Thanks!

Ditto. Mine still isn't registering. My A Valley Without Wind one took the better part of forever to hit though, so I'm not holding my breath.