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Other => Website Support => Topic started by: Pumpkin on July 09, 2016, 10:55:07 AM

Title: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Pumpkin on July 09, 2016, 10:55:07 AM
Hello.

I notice there is many redirect pages that are not linked to (I created some myself). As they are particularly useless, I wonder if there is a way to delete them.

Also, the navbar templates creates a lot of links, which makes most of the "what links here" information completely useless, because everything links to everything through that navbar thing. Is there a solution? Can the navbar be moved into the wiki's footer (instead of being at each page content's end)? The "what links here" would be a very powerful tool for tracking and cleaning outdated pages...

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Dominus Arbitrationis on July 09, 2016, 11:03:37 AM
I added you to the administrator group on the wiki, mostly due to the massive amount of work you put in to the wiki, which also allows you to delete pages (And edit pages that are protected, among other fancy things). All of these actions are logged and can be reverted, so if you make a mistake just let me know and I'll fix it quickly for you. :)

When you say navbar templates, are you referring to the {{{BDRefNav}} templates? The only way to move that to the wiki footer would be to make a modification to the actual wiki code and set it up in there. Even then, I think the what links here might still pick it up.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Draco18s on July 09, 2016, 11:12:03 AM
Mind, some redirect pages exist because they're something someone might search for, rather than being something a page would link to (in fact, linking to a redirect page is often considered a faux pas).

E.g. if I put "Brutal Guard Post" into the URL bar/search I would expect that to take me to /AI_War:Guard_Posts#Brutal_Guard_Posts
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Pumpkin on July 09, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
I added you to the administrator group on the wiki, mostly due to the massive amount of work you put in to the wiki, which also allows you to delete pages (And edit pages that are protected, among other fancy things). All of these actions are logged and can be reverted, so if you make a mistake just let me know and I'll fix it quickly for you. :)

When you say navbar templates, are you referring to the {{{BDRefNav}} templates? The only way to move that to the wiki footer would be to make a modification to the actual wiki code and set it up in there. Even then, I think the what links here might still pick it up.
Wohoo! Superpowa! Thank you!!!

Mind, some redirect pages exist because they're something someone might search for, rather than being something a page would link to (in fact, linking to a redirect page is often considered a faux pas).

E.g. if I put "Brutal Guard Post" into the URL bar/search I would expect that to take me to /AI_War:Guard_Posts#Brutal_Guard_Posts
Very interesting; I wasn't aware of that. I'll pay attention to it. However, there is plenty of old technical redirections and redirections to redirections (from redirections) that really need some cleaning.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Draco18s on July 09, 2016, 02:21:45 PM
Double (or more) redirects should be cleaned up, yes.
There should be a special page for the wiki software to locate double redirects for you.  Whether or not you can find that page is another question.  Check /Special:SpecialPages it's probably something like /Special:DoubleRedirects (at least it is on Mediawiki)
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Dominus Arbitrationis on July 09, 2016, 04:50:19 PM
If you check the top of https://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:SpecialPages you should see options for double redirects and broken redirects among many other things.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Pumpkin on July 10, 2016, 04:13:30 AM
Double (or more) redirects should be cleaned up, yes.
There should be a special page for the wiki software to locate double redirects for you.  Whether or not you can find that page is another question.  Check /Special:SpecialPages it's probably something like /Special:DoubleRedirects (at least it is on Mediawiki)
If you check the top of https://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:SpecialPages you should see options for double redirects and broken redirects among many other things.
Yep, I found that. This is what made me want to clean them up. It's like a list of achievement on a game... I can't resist. (Yes, I'm weak.)

And now I can. 8) Let the game begin.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Pumpkin on July 10, 2016, 04:18:26 AM
Mind, some redirect pages exist because they're something someone might search for, rather than being something a page would link to (in fact, linking to a redirect page is often considered a faux pas).

E.g. if I put "Brutal Guard Post" into the URL bar/search I would expect that to take me to /AI_War:Guard_Posts#Brutal_Guard_Posts
Very interesting; I wasn't aware of that. I'll pay attention to it. However, there is plenty of old technical redirections and redirections to redirections (from redirections) that really need some cleaning.
Ow, question.
Does the namespace prevent the search engine to find something? For example, if there is a page named "AI_War:XXX" and I search "XXX", will I find it? If there is a page named "XXX" outside of any namespace which redirects to "AI_War:XXX", can I remove it? (provided everything link to "AI_War:XXX" and not to "XXX")

With great power comes great responsibility.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Draco18s on July 10, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
It....does, but not well.

https://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War
https://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Search/AI_War

That being a complete surprise to me that we didn't have a redirect for that.
Title: Re: Wiki cleanup questions
Post by: Dominus Arbitrationis on July 12, 2016, 09:33:32 PM
On the old wiki, I had an extension that helped a lot with the searching but it got disabled with the move to the new wiki. If anyone feels like revamping it, I'll gladly send you the code for it, but there is a lot of it and if I remember correctly it wasn't very pretty.