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Offline Ixiohm

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Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« on: April 20, 2010, 04:41:00 pm »
Hi, I have come across an oddity that I haven’t seen reported earlier. On some levels (puzzles) the game ends with the message that I failed even thou the last blocks in a combo is still in free fall. This also seems to prevent me from completing the locks tutorial (see the attached screen shot). I don’t know if it’s a bug or if I have missed something.

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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 04:43:00 pm »
This actually isn't a bug -- you've lost because there is absolutely no possibility of victory at that stage, and so it ends as soon as that state is reached.  If there are only two blocks left on the level, then you don't have enough to make a chain, so you can't possibly win, in the case of the example below.  Looks like you haven't quite solved the locked blocks tutorial correctly yet. :)
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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 04:44:05 pm »
Ah, that's the automatic "can this puzzle still be won?" check, and it's detecting that you have two blocks of the same color and no way of getting a third (and thus a chain that could remove them).  So unless I'm missing something you can't finish the board with that move.

Edit: Ninja Chris strikes again ;)
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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 04:44:36 pm »
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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 05:38:20 pm »
Ok, I see that now. Should have seen it earlier, it's getting late ;)
I still don't see how that tutorial could be completed thou, only one block can be moved and I have tried all directions, and this is as close as I'm getting to an solution ???

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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 05:42:37 pm »
No worries, I quite understand that. :)  That is a really fiendish puzzle, yeah -- Lars (Fiskbit here) is known for those.  Bear in mind that you can still emit a stream from the locked blocks, you just can't rotate them.  The solution is to figure out which block to start from, once you figure out which direction to point the locked block.  If you haven't yet solved the advanced tutorial with the U-Turns, then this puzzle would be even harder.  Let us know if you want another hint. I can't solve a number of the puzzles in this game, but at least this one I can. :)
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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 05:50:22 pm »
Sometimes it's hard to think outside the box, but a simple hint can do so much :P
That wasn't so hard once I got reminded of that fact, tanks  ;D

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Re: Game ends before blocks touch the ground
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 05:50:52 pm »
My pleasure!  I know just what you mean.
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