Author Topic: On the New Release Date: March 24th (EDIT: Now in April, FYI)  (Read 22879 times)

Offline Pepisolo

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2014, 10:06:57 pm »
The In-house streaming features have been showing up for me for a while (maybe a week or two, wasn't paying close attention) and I didn't opt in for it.  Of course, maybe they throw strange things at the folks in the dev group just to be cheeky ;)

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2014, 10:22:22 am »
The paying Linux customer base just hasn't materialized…for anybody.
I heard its materialized pretty well for server hosting services and similar not-gaming things.

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2014, 10:26:04 am »
I heard its materialized pretty well for server hosting services and similar not-gaming things.
N-not... gaming?
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2014, 11:15:11 am »
I heard its materialized pretty well for server hosting services and similar not-gaming things.
N-not... gaming?


That does remind me though. With my new gpu on windows i receive software updates that improve how effective it runs programs on windows. However, does it help other OS to the same degre?
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2014, 11:18:09 am »
I heard its materialized pretty well for server hosting services and similar not-gaming things.
N-not... gaming?


That does remind me though. With my new gpu on windows i receive software updates that improve how effective it runs programs on windows. However, does it help other OS to the same degre?
Do you mean it also downloads updates when running in a non-windows OS?  If not it should have no impact, as presumably those software updates (drivers, I assume) are quite windows-specific and the other OS's wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2014, 09:36:20 am »
I heard its materialized pretty well for server hosting services and similar not-gaming things.
N-not... gaming?


That does remind me though. With my new gpu on windows i receive software updates that improve how effective it runs programs on windows. However, does it help other OS to the same degre?
Do you mean it also downloads updates when running in a non-windows OS?  If not it should have no impact, as presumably those software updates (drivers, I assume) are quite windows-specific and the other OS's wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.



Glancing at the patch notes, for my GPU, while for windows the gpu updates are making it more efficient, the linux updates are focused on making it work at all! For this reason, I wonder on high end computers which is more efficient for gaming, the barebones linux or the highly optimized windows. If the later, that would explain why it hasn't taken off for gaming for that audience.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2014, 04:18:48 pm »
In my experience, native linux ports almost always perform better than their windows counterparts.  The reason it hasn't taken off more with gamers is simply because developers, especially triple-A's, tend to only release on windows.  And the reason developers release on windows is because it has ~90% of the market.

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2014, 05:29:38 pm »
 Yeah... the day groups like Square Enix makes a game that runs on Linux... I will eat my bacon with wings.

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2014, 07:45:06 pm »
Yeah... the day groups like Square Enix makes a game that runs on Linux... I will eat my bacon with wings.


I used to idolize square. Every release was just mind blowing Final Fantasy fun, and then something happened. They started diluting their IP with crappy games, forgot how to innovate, forgot how to write a story, and succumbed to what I consider the biggest issue with Japanese gaming, and that's interminable grinding in their games.


I no longer feel compelled to get the latest Final Fantasy, and that makes me sad.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2014, 07:49:30 pm »
Yeah... the day groups like Square Enix makes a game that runs on Linux... I will eat my bacon with wings.


I used to idolize square. Every release was just mind blowing Final Fantasy fun, and then something happened. They started diluting their IP with crappy games, forgot how to innovate, forgot how to write a story, and succumbed to what I consider the biggest issue with Japanese gaming, and that's interminable grinding in their games.


I no longer feel compelled to get the latest Final Fantasy, and that makes me sad.

I could have written this myself, it echoes my feelings exactly.  I'm really sad about that, too.  Back in the early 90s, on NES and SNES, Squaresoft just could do no wrong.  I never was a fan of the Enix stuff, honestly.  Then we hit the Playstation era and they basically lost me.  There were some bits I liked, and some things that I liked quite a lot (FFX in particular, also FFXII to a much lesser degree), and then a lot of meh.  I never could really connect with FF7 fully.  FF1, FF4, FF6, Chrono Trigger, and Secret of Mana will always be the pinnacle of their work, for me.  FFT and FFTA were also really darn good.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2014, 07:52:59 pm »
Yea, pretty much my exact feelings on Square, too.  The FF games were literally formative for me, but I haven't even tried to keep up with the series for the past few years.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2014, 08:40:00 pm »
Yeah... the day groups like Square Enix makes a game that runs on Linux... I will eat my bacon with wings.


I used to idolize square. Every release was just mind blowing Final Fantasy fun, and then something happened. They started diluting their IP with crappy games, forgot how to innovate, forgot how to write a story, and succumbed to what I consider the biggest issue with Japanese gaming, and that's interminable grinding in their games.


I no longer feel compelled to get the latest Final Fantasy, and that makes me sad.


Uuuugh, yeah, I agree with this.  It's not possible for me to agree with this any harder than I already do, not without exploding.

They used to do such awesome stuff, way back when.  FFIV still remains my favorite, though they had all sorts of cool non-FF stuff too.

And then..... it was just gone.  I think for me it was right around when FF10 released (which I hated) 7 and 8 had been okay at least, sorta..... not all that good, but okay.... but 10 was a cutscene-riddled ball of.... cutscenes.  The storyline, which was already a concept Square was starting to have trouble with at that point, was braindead, and the design overall was just awful.  I remember overall that game felt way more linear than any of the others ever had.  And too many things in it were just too idiotic.  Or at least that was my views on it, anyway.

Though, in reality, it doesnt matter too much as to which of those I percieved as the start of the stupidity, because they all led to the same end result, which is Square the way they are now.  Ugh.  FF 13, I think, speaks alot for just how far they've fallen, and of course it's not JUST the FF series, it's pretty much every single possible thing they make.  And even worse, alot of the other developers of such things.... okay, pretty much all of them actually.... have this obnoxious tendancy to somewhat copy Square's everything, so as Square's RPGs started getting more and more dumb, so did those of others.

Eventually I gave up on the JRPG genre for good, and I'd never been THAT into it to begin with.  Havent for a moment felt a bit of desire to go back to it.  As it is, Square is pretty much entirely responsible for driving me towards my absolute loathing of story elements or cutscenes in gaming.  Normally I'd say "And now I dont buy their stuff anymore", but I dont really buy ANY console-related anything anymore, so that only counts for so much. 


.....also, yes, the GRINDING. I'm never, ever, EVER going to understand the appeal of this.   Quite frankly, I dont WANT to understand.  Like Disgaea, uuuuugh.  Every time that developer comes out with a new game, a certain friend of mine enters the "NEVER SHUTS THE HELL UP" state of mind in relation to it.  He'll then proceed to reach a certain point in the game.... usually not all that far in.... find one specific map, and then start doing it over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and..... well, repeat "and over" about  60473857 more times, and you've got it nearly right.  Because apparently that's what you do in a "strategy RPG", bah.  I really, really dont get how that's supposed to be fun or interesting or challenging.  And moreso, I dont get how anyone could even DO it for the bazillions of hours that they do.  I can understand putting alot of hours into a game.  But the thing is, in most games, STUFF HAPPENS.... you dont just jump and stomp on the same 3 Goombas over and over again until the heat death of the universe.

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2014, 10:53:05 pm »
100% agree, those NES-SNES-GBA era Square games in particular are epic and will always hold a special place in RPG history.

On a tangent, last year a bunch of musicians and artists put together a 3 disc tribute to Secret of Mana called Spectrum of Mana, along with a bunch of amazing art. It's free and great: http://spectrumofmana.com/

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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2014, 11:17:01 pm »
100% agree, those NES-SNES-GBA era Square games in particular are epic and will always hold a special place in RPG history.

On a tangent, last year a bunch of musicians and artists put together a 3 disc tribute to Secret of Mana called Spectrum of Mana, along with a bunch of amazing art. It's free and great: http://spectrumofmana.com/

Don't get me started on video game-related bands, but you would be remiss not to check out Armcannon, The OneUps, LONELYROLLINGSTARS, Viking Guitar, The Protomen, The Megas, Metroid Metal... Basically the lineup of any given MAGFest. ;)

I absolutely love The Megas, they're a great band.
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Re: On the New Release Date: March 24th
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2014, 10:09:19 am »
I knew Squaresoft were finished after playing FF8. I never bought their games after that. My favourite Square game is probably FF6, although Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are close seconds. I think Secret of Evermore is underrated as well -- that's probably just me, though.  So, yeah, I'm in complete agreement -- Square used to be phenomenal, now they're absolutely terrible. Incidentally, this is also how I feel about The Simpsons, but that's going even further off-topic.