Concerning the new Relation Buildings

[Drak]

Ok, so I'm a bit of a nut-job and sat down to figure out the complex relationship buildings, and here's what I can up with (didn't put it on the wiki because I don't want to spoil the fun for others . I make one assumption that I'm not 100% sure on though; tThat the faction adjustment toward the owner's own race is basically ignored (ie, Evucks don't get mad at themselves for building Confectionaries on their planets). I came up with these build sets with a few goals in mind. 1) All positive gains (no negatives), so that once constructed, they'll lead to an ever more friendly system (and eventually, hopefully, a federation). 2) Try to have at least a small gain for every race (even if that meant less overall gain across all races), 3) Maximize overall gain (except as noted in #1, 2), 4) minimize the number of buildings that need to be built where possible (without sacrificing #1, 2, or 3) to reduce time/goon requirements.

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This table just lists the values as pulled from the in-game tooltips:

All	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	1	0.3	-0.4	0.2	0.2	0.95	0.5	0.15	-0.9
Arms Dealer	0	0.15			0.3			-0.15	-0.3
Confectionary	0.15				0.3	-0.3	0.15
Cryo-storage Warren	0				-0.15	0.15		0.3	-0.3
Gladitorial Arena	0	0.15	-0.15		0.3			-0.3
HC: Adventure	-0.15		-0.3	0.3			-0.3		0.15
HC: Documentaries	0			-0.15	-0.3	0.3		0.15
HC: Family Stories	0			-0.3			0.3	0.15	-0.15
HC: Inappropriate	0.25				0.3	0.3	-0.05	-0.3
HC: Reality	0	0.3	-0.3		0.15			-0.15
HC: Sports	0		0.3	-0.15		-0.3	0.15
Hydroponic Plant	0			0.3	-0.3	0.05	-0.05
Interactive Teaching	0.45			0.05	-0.05	0.15		0.3
Pastorial Hideaway	-0.1	-0.3	0.05		-0.15		0.3
Philosophic Academy	0.4				-0.05	0.3		0.15
Protien Vats	0			0.15	-0.15	0.3			-0.3

                                    

These tables represent my "ideal" kits for each race's planets (so I build Acutian kits on each acutian world for instance).

Acutians	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	21	4.05	0	0.45	0.6	0.75	0.5	1	0.45	0.3
Confectionary	3	0.45				0.9	-0.9	0.45
HC: Adventure	2	-0.3		-0.6	0.6			-0.6		0.3
HC: Inappropriate	3	0.75				0.9	0.9	-0.15	-0.9
HC: Sports	3	0		0.9	-0.45		-0.9	0.45
Hydroponic Plant	1	0			0.3	-0.3	0.05	-0.05
Interactive Teaching	3	1.35			0.15	-0.15	0.45		0.9
Pastorial Hideaway	3	0.6		0.15		-0.45		0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	1.2				-0.15	0.9		0.45

                                    

Andor	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	20	4.05	0.45	0	0.45	0.9	1.05	0.45	0.45	0.3
Confectionary	3	0.45				0.9	-0.9	0.45
Gladitorial Arena	3	0.45	0.45			0.9			-0.9
HC: Adventure	2	0.3			0.6			-0.6		0.3
HC: Documentaries	2	0			-0.3	-0.6	0.6		0.3
HC: Reality	2	0.6	0.6			0.3			-0.3
Interactive Teaching	3	1.35			0.15	-0.15	0.45		0.9
Pastorial Hideaway	2	-0.3	-0.6			-0.3		0.6
Philosophic Academy	3	1.2				-0.15	0.9		0.45

                                    

Boarine	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	19	3.65	0.3	0.3	0	1.2	0.75	0.5	0.45	0.15
Confectionary	3	0.45				0.9	-0.9	0.45
Gladitorial Arena	2	0	0.3	-0.3		0.6			-0.6
HC: Adventure	1	-0.45		-0.3				-0.3		0.15
HC: Documentaries	2	0.3				-0.6	0.6		0.3
HC: Inappropriate	2	0.5				0.6	0.6	-0.1	-0.6
HC: Sports	3	0.45		0.9			-0.9	0.45
Interactive Teaching	3	1.2				-0.15	0.45		0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	1.2				-0.15	0.9		0.45

                                    

Burlust	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	21	3.75	0.15	0.15	0.45	0	0.9	0.3	1.65	0.15
Confectionary	2	-0.3					-0.6	0.3
Gladitorial Arena	1	-0.3	0.15	-0.15					-0.3
HC: Adventure	2	-0.3		-0.6	0.6			-0.6		0.3
HC: Documentaries	3	0.9			-0.45		0.9		0.45
HC: Family Stories	1	0			-0.3			0.3	0.15	-0.15
HC: Sports	3	0		0.9	-0.45		-0.9	0.45
Hydroponic Plant	3	0.9			0.9		0.15	-0.15
Interactive Teaching	3	1.5			0.15		0.45		0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	1.35					0.9		0.45

                                    

Evuck	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	15	3.15	0.15	0.15	0.3	0.9	0	0.3	1.05	0.3
Confectionary	3	1.35				0.9		0.45
Gladitorial Arena	1	0	0.15	-0.15		0.3			-0.3
HC: Adventure	2	-0.3		-0.6	0.6			-0.6		0.3
HC: Sports	3	0.9		0.9	-0.45			0.45
Interactive Teaching	3	0.9			0.15	-0.15			0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	0.3				-0.15			0.45

                                    

Peltian	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	15	3.05	0.15	0.15	0.45	0.9	0.8	0	0.45	0.15
Confectionary	2	0				0.6	-0.6
Gladitorial Arena	1	0	0.15	-0.15		0.3			-0.3
HC: Adventure	1	0.15		-0.3	0.3					0.15
HC: Inappropriate	2	0.6				0.6	0.6		-0.6
HC: Sports	2	-0.3		0.6	-0.3		-0.6
Hydroponic Plant	1	0.05			0.3	-0.3	0.05
Interactive Teaching	3	1.35			0.15	-0.15	0.45		0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	1.2				-0.15	0.9		0.45

                                    

Skylaxian	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	21	3.6	0.45	0.15	0.9	1.05	0.6	0.3	0	0.15
Confectionary	3	0.45				0.9	-0.9	0.45
Gladitorial Arena	1	0.3	0.15	-0.15		0.3
HC: Adventure	1	-0.15		-0.3	0.3			-0.3		0.15
HC: Inappropriate	3	1.65				0.9	0.9	-0.15
HC: Reality	1	0.15	0.3	-0.3		0.15
HC: Sports	3	0		0.9	-0.45		-0.9	0.45
Hydroponic Plant	3	0			0.9	-0.9	0.15	-0.15
Interactive Teaching	3	0.45			0.15	-0.15	0.45
Philosophic Academy	3	0.75				-0.15	0.9

                                    

Thoraxian	Count	Total	Acut	Andr	Boar	Burl	Evuk	Pelt	Skyl	Thor
Totals:	24	6.6	0.45	0.3	0.45	1.2	2.45	0.7	1.05	0
Arms Dealer	3	0.9	0.45			0.9			-0.45
Confectionary	3	0.45				0.9	-0.9	0.45
Cryo-storage Warren	3	0.9				-0.45	0.45		0.9
HC: Family Stories	1	0.15			-0.3			0.3	0.15
HC: Inappropriate	3	0.75				0.9	0.9	-0.15	-0.9
HC: Sports	1	0		0.3	-0.15		-0.3	0.15
Hydroponic Plant	1	0			0.3	-0.3	0.05	-0.05
Interactive Teaching	3	1.35			0.15	-0.15	0.45		0.9
Philosophic Academy	3	1.2				-0.15	0.9		0.45
Protien Vats	3	0.9			0.45	-0.45	0.9

                                    

[Drak]

Hmm, now all I've got to do is figure out how to turn on table borders...

[GC13]

Note that attitude buildings are weird in 1.009. You only get the strongest positive effect from any building (so building three of a +0.3, and three of a +0.15, will get you +0.3 a month), and perversely if you have any negative effect at all it seems to prefer applying a negative effect to a positive one (so a +0.3 and a -0.15 will result in -0.15 a month).

I've Mantised this, but it's still very relevant for anyone trying to build in 1.009.

[Drak]

Sigh, scrap all this then - lol.

[GC13]

Well, we can always hope that 1.01 (or would it be 1.0010? This is why I prefer dots, so 1.0.0.10) fixes the attitude buildings.

Apparently it's at least being fixed that multiples don't stack, though the negative nullifying the positive wasn't mentioned.

[Drak]

The new "tenthing" for "pacing" reasons has rendered the tooltips a little misleading too I think (I'm betting the values that read as 0.002, but used to be 0.015 are actually a display rounding of 0.0015, and the difference is significant, especially compounded over hundreds of months and possibly multiple coppies of the building.

[Drak]

Confirmed to work this way in 1.016.