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Please Not Market This As A Roguelike If It Is Not

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Coppermantis:

--- Quote from: tombik on October 13, 2015, 10:59:37 am ---
You guys also deceived me before in Bionic Dues, calling it mecha roguelike or something,


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Just FYI, BD is, in fact, described as a "roguelite" on its Steam store page.


--- Quote ---Bionic Dues is a tactical, turn-based roguelite with mech customization
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tombik:

--- Quote from: Coppermantis on October 13, 2015, 11:36:19 am ---
--- Quote from: tombik on October 13, 2015, 10:59:37 am ---
You guys also deceived me before in Bionic Dues, calling it mecha roguelike or something,


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Just FYI, BD is, in fact, described as a "roguelite" on its Steam store page.


--- Quote ---Bionic Dues is a tactical, turn-based roguelite with mech customization
--- End quote ---

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Thanks, then my eyesight must have betrayed me back then :)


--- Quote from: Misery on October 13, 2015, 11:35:16 am ---
Hmm, I actually think it's just because people have gotten used to it.  It's kinda baffling to me, but ALOT of gamers these days have no idea where the term "roguelike" even comes from.  They know it involves alot of random generation and permadeath, but they've never heard of the original Rogue, or even games like Nethack or anything like that.  I know a few people that are like this.  If I show them a "real" roguelike, one of the true classic types, they have no freaking clue as to what they're even looking at and may or may not declare it to be stupid. 

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So am I really wanting too much if I want Chris to not participate this mediocrity? :)

As far as I have understood from what you are saying, there is not even that big of a list which will justify using a word to express them. Permadeath is not required, even random progression is not a must that much for some games. (Risk of Rain anyone?). So we are basically including a word to describe a game, which adds exactly nothing to our understanding of the game.

Hell, we can even call a game Blue, and it will tell more about it.

If we are not to follow the "purist" version of the word, we must realize that the non purist version is actually a blabbering marketing trick which is not descriptive.

crazyroosterman:

--- Quote from: tombik on October 13, 2015, 11:37:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Coppermantis on October 13, 2015, 11:36:19 am ---
--- Quote from: tombik on October 13, 2015, 10:59:37 am ---
You guys also deceived me before in Bionic Dues, calling it mecha roguelike or something,


--- End quote ---

Just FYI, BD is, in fact, described as a "roguelite" on its Steam store page.


--- Quote ---Bionic Dues is a tactical, turn-based roguelite with mech customization
--- End quote ---

--- End quote ---

Thanks, then my eyesight must have betrayed me back then :)


--- Quote from: Misery on October 13, 2015, 11:35:16 am ---
Hmm, I actually think it's just because people have gotten used to it.  It's kinda baffling to me, but ALOT of gamers these days have no idea where the term "roguelike" even comes from.  They know it involves alot of random generation and permadeath, but they've never heard of the original Rogue, or even games like Nethack or anything like that.  I know a few people that are like this.  If I show them a "real" roguelike, one of the true classic types, they have no freaking clue as to what they're even looking at and may or may not declare it to be stupid. 

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So am I really wanting too much if I want Chris to not participate this mediocrity? :)

As far as I have understood from what you are saying, there is not even that big of a list which will justify using a word to express them. Permadeath is not required, even random progression is not a must that much for some games. (Risk of Rain anyone?). So we are basically including a word to describe a game, which adds exactly nothing to our understanding of the game.

Hell, we can even call a game Blue, and it will tell more about it.

If we are not to follow the "purist" version of the word, we must realize that the non purist version is actually a blabbering marketing trick which is not descriptive.

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I wish some one would come up with a better name with this genera to stop the constant arguing over the name its not even a good name in the first place.

Aklyon:
Its about as likely roguelike will change its name as much as moba will become a reasonable genre name.

tombik:

--- Quote from: crazyroosterman on October 13, 2015, 11:57:34 am ---I wish some one would come up with a better name with this genera to stop the constant arguing over the name its not even a good name in the first place.

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I really hope so.

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