XML questions and answers

[ptarth]

Take "relative=true" out of those angle changes, and the looping just doesnt happen.  Among other possible ways to make it not loop.

Oh, I think I know this one, are you doing loops of something like:
<loop iterations = "-1">
<change angle="90", relative="false"/>
</loop>

If so, then once the absolute angle is 90 degrees, it won't change anymore, because it already 90 degrees. So you'll get a shot that makes a single 90 degree turn then stays in that direction. Of course, someone needs to be beaten for having 90 degrees being backwards of a healthy persons idea of 90 degrees, and sometimes it seems that it is relatively to another range angle or to the entity or its parent entity, but that's another issue.

[keith.lamothe]

I see in the secret path notes

Well, it's in the XML docs too. Though I think people try to read those like they're animal entrails.

there is a secret problem with pants, wherein it skips the first line in a loop, but the problem I've been having is that I see the first line being repeated twice in every loop after the first.

Bizarre. The pants aren't on the head anymore... but it's wearing two pair.

wear_one_and_exactly_one_pair_of_pants="true"

If you could give me a reproducible case for that one I could take a look.

bouncing snakes!

And I'm the tormentor?

[Misery]

For the record, Keith sounded just like my ArcenDebugLog reads.

I wish I had that problem. Here is my debug reads:

Code: [Select]

Error Opening vars file: System.Xml.XmlException: 'wait' is expected file:///D:/Steam/steamapps/common/Starward Rogue/RuntimeData/Configuration/BulletPatternVariables/Ptarth_BulletVarsSubmission.xml Line 32, position 9.
  at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Expect (System.String expected) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadEndTag () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.ReadContent () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Mono.Xml2.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Mono.Xml.EntityResolvingXmlReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at Mono.Xml.Schema.XsdValidatingReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlValidatingReader.Read () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNodeCore (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.ReadNode (System.Xml.XmlReader reader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.Xml.XmlReader xmlReader) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.Xml.XmlDocument.Load (System.String filename) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at BulletPatternDataTable.DoPreInitializationLogic () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 :    D:/Steam/steamapps/common/Starward Rogue/RuntimeData/Configuration/BulletPatternVariables/Ptarth_BulletVarsSubmission.xml

   at System.Environment.get_StackTrace()
   at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, DebugLogDestination Destination, Boolean IncludeStackTrace, Verbosity Verbosity)
   at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, DebugLogDestination Destination, Verbosity Verbosity)
   at ArcenDebugging.ArcenDebugLog(System.String Message, Verbosity Verbosity)
   at EngineConfig.WriteToErrorFile(System.String ErrorFile, System.String ErrorName, System.String ErrorText, Boolean SuppressArcenDebugLog)
   at EngineConfig.WriteToErrorFile(System.String ErrorFile, System.String ErrorName, System.String ErrorText)
   at BulletPatternDataTable.DoPreInitializationLogic()
   at ArcenDynamicTable`1.Initialize(Boolean IsPostInitReParse)
   at Game.GameForm_Load()
   at Game.ContinueInitializeGame()
   at Game.ContinueMultiStageProcess()
   at ArcenMainCameraImplementations.MainUpdateLogic()
   at MainCameraLogic.Update()

1/29/2016 7:54:07 AM
Errors in reading GameEntityTypeDataTable
internal name 'PlayerRedBlack' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogSnakeHandler' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogHitSideStep' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogHitPhase' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogJanitor' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogSideStep' occured more than once
internal name 'AbmoogPhaseOut' occured more than once
internal name 'KamikazeInvaderMinion' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion1' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion2' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion3' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion4' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderMinion5' occured more than once
internal name 'InvaderBoss' occured more than once
internal name 'ReanimatorBoss' occured more than once
internal name 'ReanimatorBossStage2' occured more than once
internal name 'ReanimatorBossStage3' occured more than once
internal name 'ReanimatorBossStage4' occured more than once
internal name 'ZombieMech' occured more than once
internal name 'ZombieMechFamiliar' occured more than once
internal name 'BrokenZombieMech' occured more than once
internal name 'ZombiePartPile' occured more than once
internal name 'ZombieGoodPartPile' occured more than once     1/29/2016 7:54:07 AM
GameInit (1 - 1/29/2016 7:54:07 AM)     1/29/2016 7:54:08 AM
Version: 1.009     1/29/2016 7:54:08 AM
sound file count: 509     1/29/2016 7:54:08 AM
sound loading finished     1/29/2016 7:54:08 AM
GameInit (2 - 1/29/2016 7:54:08 AM)     1/29/2016 7:54:16 AM
GameInit (3 - 1/29/2016 7:54:16 AM)   
Also Internal failure in that other bullet pattern, but we aren't going to tell you about it. Instead we are going to use the previous version that sorta worked, and keep using it regardless of the changes you made to the pattern, because you have a typo. After you start crying, then we'll consider giving you a fatal error which will remind you to restart the game and notice the pattern won't load. Or perhaps we'll not do anything and see if you notice that your patternslog file has changed again. And for fun, let's add an extra " and see if you notice.


How.... how are you supposed to make sense of that?

[keith.lamothe]

How.... how are you supposed to make sense of that?

The only way to win is not to play.

[keith.lamothe]

Maybe I should take the time to add support for "if there's an attribute that doesn't match something the code actually looks at, fuss". It's... involved, but I think the alternative is cthulhan for some of the content editors.

[ptarth]

I see in the secret path notes

Well, it's in the XML docs too. Though I think people try to read those like they're animal entrails.

I've saved copies of the xml docs locally, because otherwise I end up performing DOS attacks against the wiki server. As a simple person, when I look for bullet properties I have this naive hope it will be all together, instead I have to check: bulletpatterns, systems, modifiers, effects, and occasional entities to find the property modifier effect attribute subnode THINGIE I need. And because I forget where I found it last time, I have to do it every time (almost). I also have to open enums a few times, just to get to the right section. And let's not get into targetting versus target versus targeting.

there is a secret problem with pants, wherein it skips the first line in a loop, but the problem I've been having is that I see the first line being repeated twice in every loop after the first.

Bizarre. The pants aren't on the head anymore... but it's wearing two pair.

wear_one_and_exactly_one_pair_of_pants="true"

If you could give me a reproducible case for that one I could take a look.

gibbering maddness ensues...
https://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=18584
https://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=18585
https://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,18335.msg198033.html#msg198033

[Misery]

How.... how are you supposed to make sense of that?

The only way to win is not to play.

Yeah, that'd probably be pretty much my reaction to it (and I wonder how many people would know where that line is from).  That and something thrown at the wall.

I mean, that whole thing may as well just read "LOL NOPE!" as far as I'm concerned.

[keith.lamothe]

gibbering maddness ensues...

My apologies, I don't actually crawl mantis (or most of the forums) myself, Chris just puts stuff on my list. Will take a look.

[ptarth]

No worries. The optimal placement of the criterion for separating signal to noise means you are going to miss things at times.

Or Chris hates me....

Have some snakes.

[PokerChen]

Yeah okay, so they can't easily & smoothly (non-instantly) track the player *and* bounce-ish. Okay, I can live with that.

Also, this tag doesn't work:
            requires_firing_system_range_to_player_more_than_or_equal_to="[TRIGGER_DMIN]"
while this tag does:
            requires_firing_system_range_to_player_less_than_or_equal_to="[TRIGGER_DMAX]"

[keith.lamothe]

Have some snakes.

Why does it always have to be snakes?

[Cinth]

My debug logs aren't bad because I'm using something that was already written and tested, I'm just making changes that fit what I want (usually).  I also do stuff in very small batches so if it doesn't work, I know where to look (generally speaking).  At that point I either find another example to use or hit up the wiki for alternatives.

My approach, small bytes

Have some snakes.

Why does it always have to be snakes?

Indy, Indy ! LOOK OUT!

[Misery]

Have some snakes.

Why does it always have to be snakes?

Could be worse.

Could be bigger Blaze Turrets.

[Cinth]

Could be worse.

Could be bigger Blaze Turrets.

We already have those.....

[keith.lamothe]

Maybe we need a shop item that gives immunity to blaze turret...