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Offline FroBodine

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What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« on: June 05, 2015, 07:33:08 pm »
When I buy certain buildilngs, e.g. Logging Camp or Engineering firm (for examples, I'm sure there are more), a greenish shaded area covers some of the hexes on the map.

What does this shaded area represent, please?

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 07:44:01 pm »
it represents the areas you can and can not build in I'm pretty sure there's a toltips that says so when deciding were to put your building although its not exactly what I just said.
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 07:46:35 pm »
But, there are no green icons that represent buildable hexes at all.  Just a shaded area, and a non-shaded regular map area.  It won't let me build in either shaded or non-shaded areas.  I thought the green icons represented areas where you can build.  Why is the shaded area different than the hexes with the green icons?

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 07:48:10 pm »
Are you referring to the bluish halo around building like the Police or Hazmat?  IIRC those pop up when you place buildings to show coverage.  Maybe a SS to illustrate what you see, so we can better answer you?
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 07:54:30 pm »
is the shaded area around the building your plonking down? in witch case that's perfectly normal unless its a colour other than green/red? and yes a screen shot would wonderful. ps for some reason I read your post I thought this was civ 5 with the lit up areas were you can build things.........yeap I really am going mad I just realised that doesn't even exist in civ 5
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 08:26:46 pm »
Here is a screenshot . . . the blue highlighted area around the logging camp I am trying to place is faint, but you can see it better if you click and expand the screenshot.



I am trying to place a logging camp, and the faint bluish highlight on some hexes is what I am talking about.  What is this highlighted area?

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2015, 08:29:17 pm »
That's the pollution cleanup / police radius of the lander.  Hazmat and Police buildings give off the same halo.
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 08:36:43 pm »
If you look at the bottom of the display you can see that the Net Pollution Layout is being displayed. The darker area is the change due to your new building placement.
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 08:52:30 pm »
Thanks!  Also, placing an engineering firm gives this bluish tinted halo.  Why would that building also show this halo?

So, my follow up questions - why does it show pollution and police radius when I am placing a logging camp?  And ptarth, do you mean the text bottom right where it says, "Net pollution emissions (and cleaning)?  I don't see the darker area you are referring to.  Where is that, please?

These things REALLY need to be explained in the game.  I love Arcen games so much (except Last Federation - I just couldn't get into it).  But, often times their games are almost impenetrably difficult to understand until you ask A LOT of questions.  I sure can't wait for the tutorial!

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 09:00:52 pm »
I think its so you can efficiently cross reference whatever pollution out put/crime the buildings personally I have never had a problem understanding arcens games(apart from the demo of ai war that confused me a little bit) granted though apart from tlf this the only game of arcens I have extensively played.
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 09:03:43 pm »
Thanks!  Also, placing an engineering firm gives this bluish tinted halo.  Why would that building also show this halo?

So, my follow up questions - why does it show pollution and police radius when I am placing a logging camp?  And ptarth, do you mean the text bottom right where it says, "Net pollution emissions (and cleaning)?  I don't see the darker area you are referring to.  Where is that, please?

These things REALLY need to be explained in the game.  I love Arcen games so much (except Last Federation - I just couldn't get into it).  But, often times their games are almost impenetrably difficult to understand until you ask A LOT of questions.  I sure can't wait for the tutorial!

Because the building creates pollution.  Pollution is bad for a variety of reasons :)
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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 09:07:10 pm »
Thanks again everyone.  I think I understand the mechanic now. 

I was mainly referring to Last Federation with my statement that their games are difficult to grok.  That one just never clicked with me.

I think I will really love Stars, though.  Once it all clicks, it's going to be a blast!

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 09:10:23 pm »
...why does it show pollution and police radius when I am placing a logging camp?  ...
So you can make informed decisions about placement. You want to cover crime filled areas with police. You want to put hazmats where you have pollution. You want to
put lumber camps (which cause pollution) in an area where your hazmats will clean it up. Etc.

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...do you mean the text bottom right where it says, "Net pollution emissions (and cleaning)? ...
Yes. It will choose an overlay that is helpful (sometimes, sometimes it isn't).

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I don't see the darker area you are referring to.  Where is that, please?
It depends on the building and the strength of the effect caused by that building. So if you choose a factory you see it has a much darker pollution generation area than a lumbermill or a Science Lab.

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Re: What is the shaded area when placing certain buildings?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 09:37:11 am »
Thanks again everyone.  I think I understand the mechanic now. 

I was mainly referring to Last Federation with my statement that their games are difficult to grok.  That one just never clicked with me.

I think I will really love Stars, though.  Once it all clicks, it's going to be a blast!
tlf was the first arcen game I played and I absolutely love that game especially the soundtrack I like what I've seen so far with this game regarding soundtrack but it still doesn't hold a candle to tlfs for me personally.
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