[Discussion] Adjacent Building Multipliers

[ptarth]

0016786: Multiplicative bonuses for housing (at least) are currently way overdone
Description   While I definitely support more adjacency bonuses to decrease sprawl a bit - I really like the ideas in this version - currently they are way too effective - the entire population of a major city could live in a single condominium surrounded by 6 middle eateries, for example. 100 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 6400.

Simple ways of toning down would be by either a) reducing the numbers on those multipliers, especially for the same-building versions, b) changing the bonuses from multiplicative to additive (so that x2 actually means +100% to the base, giving 700 instead of 6400) or c) (and my preference) both. Natural Wonders should stay special with larger numbers, but I like the 1.3 on farms and water a lot more than I do the 2 on housing, especially multiplicatively.

My first that the bonus should be double the normal capacity if completely surrounded by supportive buildings.
So a Condo surrounded by ANY housing or dining buildings would get a x2 multiplier. However 1.0/6 = 0.167. However that's ugly math, so perhaps boost it to 1.2 or lower it to 1.15? And definitely additive.

[Eternaly_Lost]

I agree that it does need to be toned down a bit.

I loaded up my save game and went from about 12,000 housing to something like 78,000 housing with an incredable amount of it being of the upper levels. Still not approaching a proper city size, but it on the right path.

[jerith]

Farmland and energy adjacency bonuses are also too high. I really like the idea, but at the moment there's not much incentive to look for housing/food/power wonders because a handful of buildings next to each other can meet all your needs. At the moment, there doesn't even seem to be much incentive to use the higher-level farms and water sources.

[Zebeast46]

Ya, the power levels are INSANELY high right now, before the patch I had about 51 000 power now I have over 1 million.

[TheVampire100]

Just tested the new bonuses. Holy shi-, they are very op. But this is very fun, it gives me the feeling of a powerful being.

This also gives me the idea, why not implement a similiar sclaing option like in AI War? Give us an option that defines the strength of adjecant bonuses.

[ptarth]

The current modifiers have been rolled back to more manageable levels. Chris also requested that we come up with a fuller list of buildings and adjacency bonuses. I think this is going to be a major force in creating interesting and meaningful cities.