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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2015, 07:46:02 pm »

Thanks for all the thoughts!

Thanks for making your game better so that we can enjoy it more :)
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2015, 08:50:05 am »

Thanks for all the thoughts!

Thanks for making your game better so that we can enjoy it more :)

I try! :)
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2015, 07:33:06 am »
Okay, true to form for me, I kinda go against what seems to be the popular idea here.

The way I see it, too many games take themselves WAY too seriously.  The big AAA games are almost always like this, and what's worse, this is often followed by a REALLY TERRIBLE STORY.   JRPGs, to me, being by far the worst offenders here. Though, basically anything can do it.  And everything is all drama and emo and blah blah blah.... ugh.  I tired of it a very long time ago.

So for me, something like BD that had alot of humor in it is a breath of fresh air.  Finally, something that doesnt take itself super seriously.   And considering that most games cant give me suspension of disbelief to begin with (due to the afore-mentioned bad storylines and game mechanics that then go against established story ideas WAY too hard), this bit really doesnt affect me much.   I'm alot more likely to want to read something funny in a game rather than.... anything else.  Really, it's gotten to the point where for gaming as a whole, I now just outright dislike storylines entirely.  I like my shmups, which often dont HAVE a story.  Or if they do, it's something like:  "Blast off and destroy the evil Bydo empire!!! EXPLOSIONS LASER KABOOM!!!" and that's the entire thing.  It's so much better than listening to characters drone on and on and on and on and on while being as dramatic as possible or while being really cliche'd, or both.  All to try to suspend disbelief in a game where hiding behind cover for 5 seconds heals freaking gunshot wounds.  I just... I cant take that seriously, I really cant. 

So anything other than that really is a very welcomed break from the normal crap.  And these days, I really just dont get interested in the storylines for things otherwise and will often not have the foggiest clue what the story for a game even is.   There are occaisional exceptions, but they're rare.


I forgot where else I was going with this.

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2015, 09:50:50 am »
As with most things in life, I think that the ideal is a good balance.

If you look at Breaking Bad, for instance, that show is really dark.  But there are some absolutely hilarious parts in there, too.  Sometimes something is hilarious and tragic or badass at the same time, and you don't know whether to laugh, curl up, or cheer.  On the other hand, the show is never silly, and nobody is ever addressing the cameraman or the viewer or anything.  That sort of thing works for The Office or Things We Do In The Shadows, but not for something we're supposed to take more seriously.

Obviously it's possible to go way too far either direction, but I think that the overall success of the atmosphere of any sort of creative work is how it fits together as a whole.  Blanket statements just really don't work, because there's no truly general case.  But it's easier by far to point to lots of examples that don't work (to whatever degree), rather than those that work super well, because of course the former are the vast majority of any sort of creative work.
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2015, 02:07:17 pm »
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nobody is ever addressing the cameraman or the viewer or anything

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2015, 03:01:28 pm »
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nobody is ever addressing the cameraman or the viewer or anything

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...is not a character in Breaking Bad.  ;D

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2015, 03:11:28 pm »
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...is not a character in Breaking Bad.  ;D

No, he was totally in the background in that support group in the "Problem Dog" episode!
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2015, 03:13:40 pm »
That's the kind of character you want on the screen, so you know he's there in front of you. As opposed to busting through the fourth wall behind you.
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2015, 03:14:49 pm »
I don't even know what wall that would actually be.  8th wall?
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2015, 03:26:06 pm »
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...is not a character in Breaking Bad.  ;D

No, he was totally in the background in that support group in the "Problem Dog" episode!
OBJECTION! That's a cameo or a sight gag, not a character within the universe of the show!

I don't even know what wall that would actually be.  8th wall?
Still 4th wall, but they're using quantum mechanics come at you from behind you instead of in front of you.

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2015, 03:29:08 pm »
I would primarily object on the grounds that I was full of it, but sight gag or cameo also works. ;)
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2015, 03:31:41 pm »
That's the kind of character you want on the screen, so you know he's there in front of you. As opposed to busting through the fourth wall behind you.

He can do both =).

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2015, 03:43:20 pm »
I would primarily object on the grounds that I was full of it, but sight gag or cameo also works. ;)
Yeah, but taking it seriously and running with it is much funnier. Plus, Phoenix Wright joke.  :o

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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2015, 03:44:02 pm »
I would primarily object on the grounds that I was full of it, but sight gag or cameo also works. ;)
Yeah, but taking it seriously and running with it is much funnier. Plus, Phoenix Wright joke.  :o

Ooh!  I should have caught that joke.  Facepalm. :D
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Re: Humor In Tooltips
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2015, 03:52:47 pm »
Didn't want to throw in the picture because it's huge.
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You play many of them?