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Offline Misery

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« on: March 16, 2013, 06:39:58 AM »
Ok, so, I got back to this after finally getting the blasted screen situated (so I can maximize it and play without eye strain).... it strikes me that Windows itself handles resolutions about as badly as is conceivably possible.   Kept having problems with this due to Windows own interference (and Nvidia...sigh).   Not even going to try to describe that bit, just going to pretend it didn't happen, lol.  It's actually been a screwy issue for a few games recently, not just this one.   Pretty sure it's gone now though! 

So, anyway, further into the game now, and I dont have much in the way of complaints here..... the only level that's bothered me much so far is the Stantonburg (I'm sure I got that name wrong) boss.... seems like too much trial & error, rather than strategy / puzzle solving / reflexes.   Until you know where to go, it's going to be frustrating.   When you DO know where to go, it couldnt be easier and mostly then consists of just standing in one spot.   

Also, that Mesmerizing Maze or whatever it's called..... arrrrgh.    The way to get 900 points (I think is how much was needed for the gold) wasnt at all clear.... and STILL wasnt clear after I managed to do it.   After I dropped the bomb and a bunch of grays popped, I could swear the game said I had about 400 points.... that plus the other bonuses werent enough to get 900, so I dont even know how I got it.   And before that, I'd spent a bunch of time wondering where there might be hidden items I wasnt seeing and how to get to them.    Other than that bit, if you're not being confused by the goals for gold, that level is very easy.

The Factory goal wasnt too tough either, though it's easy to get smacked when you're trying to do it, so it's challenging enough.

I liked that bonus level with the pits.... that was a good one.


Nothing else in specific levels to mention....  everything has been pretty good so far.   No real glitches.    Though, after the boss fight, when the New Grays are wandering around, I did have a moment when avoiding the 2 that are on that one particular screen, where the second character got caught by them and just kept ricocheting back and forth between them as they chased me around.   It doesnt cause any problems, but it does look pretty stupid if that happens, heh.

Also, as the graphics go..... being able to have it mostly fill the screen really did make a huge difference.   It's so much easier to appreciate the graphics when it's like that, it just looks much better than it does with the shrunken screen.


And I've been able to get gold on MOST levels so far, some are tougher than others.

The more I play this, the more I'm going to be very interested to see the editor become available.  There's so much possibility here for level design & trading.



All in all, this has been very enjoyable so far (aside from the "ARGH STUPID SCREEN" part), and is a great example of why I'm now following your various games closely.


Oh, one thing I did think of:   That girl in Stantonburg that gives you the purple key, she wont do it if you approach her from behind, by smashing the bookshelves behind her, which I did out of sheer impatience as I tend to, hah.  Talked to her after doing that, and she had no new dialogue, so I thought I'd hit a glitch, and went to talk to the guy again.... came back, and then it occurred to me to go around to the other side. 

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Re: More feedback
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 08:41:03 AM »
I you had just busted up my bookshelves, I wouldn't have given you a key either!  :P

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Re: More feedback
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 09:31:34 AM »
Cheers!  Glad to hear you're enjoying it. :)  And yeah, the level editor will probably go live tomorrow.  Obviously it's something we use heavily internally, but the main reason I've not made it public yet is that I don't want to be fielding tons of questions on how to use it yet; I just don't have time for that while also finishing the game, but we'll have time for that after the game is actually fully there.

Regarding Arlene giving you the key, it's not a matter of the direction she's facing; you have to talk to Willis before she'll give you the key.
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Re: More feedback
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 09:33:22 AM »
I you had just busted up my bookshelves, I wouldn't have given you a key either!  :P
Something tells me that if you ran into a protagonist with Misery behind it, and that protagonist wanted a key from you, you would give the key.  Anything to be able to get out of the way ;)

Multiple Environian Overlords wish they'd had that chance.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 09:36:28 AM »
Demonaica: Look, take my bookshelves, ok?  Jeez!  You want my keys?  Fine!  Wait... what are you... you crazy... what did I ever do to you!!?

Misery: Graah!

(much sound of scuffling)

(splooosh)

Misery: Oh, man.  His head fell in the lava again.

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 09:44:58 AM »
Yea, filling a trophy wall can be a bummer ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 11:07:13 AM »
Come now, I'm not THAT impatient and irritable....

If she didn't want bookshelves smashed, she shoulda just gave me the key outright.    But I did in fact exercise patience in this instance, in that I did not fling spears or explosives at her, though I did smash more bookshelves in an attempt to get my point across.    This didn't work, so I settled for just breaking random objects with the hammer on the way back to Willis.   But I still refrained from the spear flinging, which proves that I can be at least somewhat patient every now and then  :P

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 11:09:19 AM »
:D
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 11:10:50 AM »
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Also, as the graphics go..... being able to have it mostly fill the screen really did make a huge difference.   It's so much easier to appreciate the graphics when it's like that, it just looks much better than it does with the shrunken screen.

Agreed. When I was playing in 1600 x 900 using a shrunken game window I wasn't really enjoying the game as much as I thought I should be. As soon as I maxed out the resolution I started to relax and really get into it. Indeed, my one main concern about this game in terms of reviews (user reviews at least) is that people might not understand why the game looks so tiny on their screen -- I know I certainly didn't. It left me with a negative impression on the game because things weren't maxed out for me automatically. Yes, I now understand the reasons for it, but that can't change what my original impression was.

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2013, 11:13:10 AM »
One thing is that that was fixed to not take your desktop resolution on first starting the game, so that shouldn't be an issue any longer.  But you'd have to have updated the game before actually starting it the first time, which is impossible off the installer you have now.  The new installer that we'll do, plus in general the steam version, won't have that problem; it will default to the most sane smaller resolution it can find for you when it first loads up, and so it will only be tiny like that if someone explicitly goes in and changes their screen resolution.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 11:20:14 AM »
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it will default to the most sane smaller resolution it can find for you when it first loads up, and so it will only be tiny like that if someone explicitly goes in and changes their screen resolution.

Oh, cool! Didn't realise that. If it defaults to a sane reasonably maxed out setting then that's great. That largely alleviates my concerns. Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2013, 11:24:46 AM »
We can always hope it does well enough for an HD remake.  :D

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 11:31:39 AM »
This IS the HD remake, heh.  It used to be much, much smaller.
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