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A few UI critiques from discord
BadgerBadger:
I was asked to carry some critiques here by DarkArchon. This is cut/paste from the discord (with some minor editing).
* I really strongly miss the ability to only select military units
* overall still feels very overwhelming compared to aiwar 1, everything's kinda too big and takes up too much space
* it's harder to follow what's actually happening because of the accelerating/decelerating camera as well, [it] doesn't feel responsive enough
* the zoom to flat view is kinda unnecessary, I'd rather have a zoom that just zooms in and not rotates the camera
* having to double click on planets in galaxy view is irritating as well
* have the feeling that buildings should be larger overall, not as big as the ark but similar so you actually see models from afar and not only icons
* icons should also vanish when you're zoomed in enough
* the "smooth" camera movement is really really annoying .... I would prefer direct control. no acceleration at all in x/y
* click and drag should move it immediately and not accelerate to move and then move in proper speed or accelerate, but way way faster
* when you're zoomed in it takes ages to get anywhere
* spacing, padding, icons in tooltips and font sizes overall should be severely reduced, as it is now they take up so much room
* and from Otagon: Yeah, the tooltips and UI in general are gigantic even at 2560x1440
x4000:
I agree on the high still feeling to huge. We should probably cut the default size in half and then allow for scaling up to handle the current kinds of cases.
On the various camera complaints, I agree it feels terrible at the moment. I need to redo that.
Regarding building size, I definitely can get behind that, sure.
Regarding squad size from the other thread, I think that doubling squad caps and having units per squad makes sense. We can also then make the units in ghetto squads twice as big, solving yet another problem with shipping visibility that had been raised.
As for the camera moving too slowly when you're really zoomed in, holding shift speeds that up a ton. But that's not shown anywhere right now. And I want to have a different more free-flowing camera mode that people can toggle into, while we're at it.
Regarding double clicking to get into planets, I see the point and I'm uncertain on that. I think it enables a lot of cool stuff by selecting planets, but being on one planet and having another selected may be confusing in and of itself. So that would also argue in favor of going back to single clicks and no planet selection.
Agreed on the missing of the ability to select only military units. I almost never want to move my Ark when I'm also moving a bunch of military stuff across the planet, and trying to select all the stuff except for the Ark is routinely a pain.
Having the icons disappear below a certain camera height makes sense to me at this point, although I think that should be optional and the height should be configurable. While we're at it, having the ability to turn off the graphics for squads of ships below importance or size x is something I've wanted. Then it can just be a game of icons that can run on a toaster, if people want that. Or just icons and then guardians and the ark and buildings drawing actual units, etc. Those were settings options I wanted to create to cater to the ultra low end machines where needed.
Lots of gold thoughts here, thanks for sharing it across from discord.
BadgerBadger:
--- Quote from: x4000 on November 12, 2017, 11:43:09 am ---Regarding double clicking to get into planets, I see the point and I'm uncertain on that. I think it enables a lot of cool stuff by selecting planets, but being on one planet and having another selected may be confusing in and of itself. So that would also argue in favor of going back to single clicks and no planet selection.
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Proposal: By default, planets must be double clicked, but using ctl-click says "Go directly to planet".
I think the Ark actually needs to count as a Mobile Military unit... Imagine someone using their ark in a raid against an enemy planet, then accidentally leaving it on the enemy planet when the rest of the fleet retreats.
Draco18s:
--- Quote from: x4000 on November 12, 2017, 11:43:09 am ---Agreed on the missing of the ability to select only military units. I almost never want to move my Ark when I'm also moving a bunch of military stuff across the planet, and trying to select all the stuff except for the Ark is routinely a pain.
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The Ark? You have issues not wanting to select your Ark?
I want to not select the planetary controller!
TheVampire100:
There is soemthign I noticed with the camera, I can move it in any direction if I reach the end of the screen but not up.
The upper screen let's me not pan it upwards.
Any ideas why this might be?
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