The fact that Misery cannot state quite easily and unequivocally that he would vote against Hitler- actually place a vote in an election- ends my conversation with Misery. I find it sick. Easiest question in the world.
In regards to laziness, there might be some of that running around, also. Can't be sure.
NOW you're getting a bit close to being a bit insulting this time. As a moderator, consider this a small warning. Please don't make me have to DO mod stuff here. There's no reason for this sort of thing to go so far. I'd rather not have to lock a topic or take any other actions that don't involve stomping bots. But I will if I need to, so let's take it down a notch. Normal debate only, please.
And as to the answer to your question, the answer that I apparently am not getting forth very well, well.... please see Logo's post above mine.
Why would mere VOTING be enough of a solution to freaking Hitler? If you're up against such a vile force (and you actually are fully aware of that level of evil and his capabilities and intentions)... you need more than some silly ballots to make sure the problem is dealt with, I think. You think a guy like that is simply going to play by the rules if he LOSES? I think not. Voting wouldn't be ENOUGH. I mean, seriously. And hell, in that situation, voting AT ALL would probably be a bloody horrible idea. What do you think happens to the ones (and the families of the ones) that voted against if someone like that WINS? No, you gotta stop it at the source before it ever gets that far. The guy was a freaking monster. Were he to resurface due to some foul magic, he would need to be dealt with accordingly. Not by.... voting. The very idea is ridiculous. You may as well try to stop The Joker by asking politely for him to stop.
But hey, voting duty above all, right?
Aye, this has always been a part of my problem with the typical viewpoint of the "you have a DUTY" type. Nobody ever stops to think if it will ACTUALLY accomplish anything, and also never stops to think if there may be OTHER, better options that could be chosen to help people. They often hear the word duty, and it's like some sort of switch of glowing self-importance is set off. I've had conversations like this one before, and they often go the same way. And what always REALLY gets me is that the idea of doing things like, I dunno, HELPING PEOPLE DIRECTLY is often seen as WAY less important than the arbitrary voting process in a broken system that functons about as well as Windows 10 on a bad day. People could go DO something for someone. But no, instead, the voting lets them feel like they've accomplished something without having to REALLY do much (hell, you can do it with a couple of clicks nowadays, I'd bet). Or for the non-lazy sort, it just outright OBSCURES things. They COULD go help someone, and maybe at other times they would... BUT HOLY CRAPSTICKS, gotta have PRIORITIES, gotta go vote, that's SO much more important! I've known people IRL that have seen things in EXACTLY that manner, and it's one of the reasons why I have such disdain for the system.
I rather get the impression here, too, that I could give a thousand direct examples of my having done such things to directly help people, but... it wouldn't matter. Because I didn't throw my coin into that busted machine that's supposed to do something but instead just farts out bees. And THAT, to me, is a huge part of the problem with politics. It's not JUST poisonous: It skews peoples' viewpoints of other things that may be so much more important. They cant see what's right in front of them because OMG POLITICS.
