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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2012, 09:48:00 pm »
I'm in the group of people that think "paying money in a free-to-play game" = "losing", but I can understanding the logic behind the alternate conclusion that "paying money to get a good deal's worth of fun, who cares what business model it happened in" = "winning" :)
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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2012, 02:29:32 am »
Pay to win to me is to get a substantial advantage over free playing players. Pay money = get a weapon they cannot get that is objectively better than everything else. That's pay to win.
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« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2012, 03:44:38 am »
imo it's pay to win when you can replace skill with money.

But in Tribes case it's borderline.. the XP needed to unlock stuff is extremely high.

I'd still like it better if it were a "real" game with a "real" price that buys you everything + a FUN unlock system. But the system in tribes is NOT fun. BF3 shows how unlocks are fun (ok, BF3 also has like 5 billion unlocks)

The reason I like BF3 unlocks is that they guide you like a tutorial at the beginning. And allow you to specialize with weapons you like. You can literally turn nearly any weapon in a sniper rifle or whatever situational weapon you need.....

So yeah, I am no fan of free 2 play games but in Tribes it doesn't feel unfair. I wouldn't pay 30$ for this game though, at beast 10. It only got so few maps and no truly stunning map whatsoever. Also the maps are badly designed with too little tactics involved to get to the generators or flags.... too few alternate ways on all maps

Essentially each tribes map is like Metro in BF3 just on a macro level

Also the lack of good game-modes sucks. No conquest or rush like in BF3 ? No hunter mode? It's like they didn't even bother thinking about the game modes and just slapped the standard ones on it.
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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2012, 04:02:29 am »
You do realize that the original Tribes pretty much created the team-based shooter genre, right? BF3 is ripping off Tribes just as much as any other team based shooter. That's just the way the market works.

Either way, I get that you don't like Tribes. That's fine. But comparing it to BF3 is just hilarious. The unlock system in BF3 is so stupidly and excessively stupid I don't know where to start. "Here, have this jet. Oh, you only have a cannon, so you'll be of absolutely no help to your team at all. Oh, you're a big target, but that will do. Oh, did I mention the only way to get useful is to play more with the jet? Have fun!"

How is that a good idea? O_o At least tribes gives you a solid ground to build from. You get a capper/chaser, a midfield fighter/assaulter and a defender/bombarder unlocked right off the bat. A light, mid and heavy class.

And tbh, I don't really understand the sentiment that the "unlock system isn't fun". You've got everything you need from day 1. Everything else is just flavor and taste. Like assaulting gens? Unlock the INF. Like capping? Perfect your Pathfinder. This whole idea that you need everything unlocked to compete is so alien to me because it
is quite frankly not true.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the other arguments because it's clear to me that we definitely do not see the same thing when we look at the games. To me, BF3 is a boring slugfest, while Tribes is a fast-paced team shooter with real skill involved. You likely see it he other way around. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2012, 07:37:08 am »
If you are no help flying jets with cannons you shouldn't be flying jets ;P They are anti-air vehicles after all, and cannons are by FAR the most effective weapon against anything in the air, it takes 1 strafing run to down a chopper. Later unlocks add features that require even better flying skills than if you play with the normal jet guns. Heck guided missiles require you to fly blind while you aim. So if you can't hit anything with guns, flying jets is not your thing.

But truly, if you consider BF3 a slugfest (on hardcore where 2 hits kill???) then we agree to disagree on this.

Compared to the original Tribes this Tribes sucks anyway because it has no multiple objectives game mode which was the whole point of Tribes!

Maybe the original tribes formed team shooters but this tribes doesn't even manage to copy half of that greatness.

And when you say games copied Tribes, that is true.

Sadly, Tribes Ascend did not copy Tribes. Safe for skiing.
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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2012, 11:52:37 am »
Compared to the original Tribes this Tribes sucks anyway because it has no multiple objectives game mode which was the whole point of Tribes!

Huh? Tribes 1 and 2 were both completely based around CTF, with the added bonus of things like Rabbit, Capture & Hold, and Siege. The latter two no one really played in my Tribes 2 days (even though I loved Siege), and the former two have already been added to T:A.

I am confused now.

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2012, 07:20:58 pm »
I mean they have been added unlike the modes in Tribes 1.. play that ol game first ;P

Tribes 1 CTF has a very different feel compared to Tribes Ascend CTF - and Capture & Hold is nothing but whack a mole in Tribes Ascend.. and it was a *lot* more tactical in Tribes 1...
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« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2012, 06:57:01 pm »
Sounds like how they messed up onslaught mode from unreal tournament 2004.
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« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2012, 10:42:14 am »
New maps and a few fixes in the latest release: Tartarus update.
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« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2012, 09:15:58 am »
For you video junkies out there, here's my playlist of vids I've made in Tribes. It's a mix of Deathmatch, practice and Capture the flag. Mostly Infiltrator/Sentinel footage, but quite a few disc-tossing vids as well.

Go watch this. The spaghettimonster demands it!
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« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2012, 09:37:35 am »
With around 220 hours in game, I've now unlocked everything. There's not one weapon, tool or gear I do not have, aside from the Gold-only cosmetic skins. So it didn't take that long. Though I admit, I did "cheat" with the Accelerate pack. I unlocked all those weapons with Gold, because it was an insane deal with all 27 weapons for 1200 gold.
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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2012, 07:58:43 am »
Tribes has an upcoming patch, and OH MAI GAWDZ!!?

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« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2012, 05:51:54 pm »
Fanmade trailer for Tribes: Ascend. To date, the best one I have ever seen.

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Re: Tribes Ascend - Finally shooters are GOOD again.
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2012, 10:31:25 pm »
Fanmade trailer for Tribes: Ascend. To date, the best one I have ever seen.

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Did you just find that?

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« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2012, 06:25:03 am »
Yep. Never seen it before. :/
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