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Offline mrhanman

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Re: TOME 1.0! - and other Roguelikes.
« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2013, 01:11:53 pm »
Thanks for the VI-Key RPG link mrhanman, I may as well learn to use the editor if I have the opportunity. :)

It does a good job of teaching the basics.  After the 3rd level, you have to buy a license to continue on to the more advanced stuff.  The first 3 levels cover navigation, which is the most cryptic part of vim, I think.

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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2013, 06:47:02 pm »
Yeah, same here. Aside from the new school of very graphical roguelikes (Dredmor for example), most roguelikes I've played have reserved the vi-keys for movement, usually also allowing movement with the arrow keys for noobs, and keypad movement for the new faithful.

Myself, I didn't start using vi-keys until I absolutely had to, when I bought a netbook in 2009 and became enchanted with the idea of playing Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup on it (see attachment).

Like I said before, it took about a week on/off before I got used to it, and as the image indicates, I used a reference card to help out. It took the mental image of HJKLYUBN as the shape of a rose to drive it home, with the up/down/left/right forming the stem, and the diagonals forming the petals in my mind.

The WASD keys on my laptop have arrows on them. I think when I upgrade I'll buy some water transfer decals of arrows and do the same to the Vim navigation keys.

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« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2013, 07:10:14 pm »
Okay, I'm seriously clueless here. What IS vim navigation?

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« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2013, 10:36:55 pm »
Okay, I'm seriously clueless here. What IS vim navigation?
Its what you use to navigate vim. And also some more traditional roguelikes.

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« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2013, 10:39:10 pm »
Its what you use to navigate vim.
One does not simply navigate vi.
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« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2013, 10:40:05 pm »
Its what you use to navigate vim.
One does not simply navigate vi.
Thus why madcow is confused about what it is. ;)

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« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2013, 03:29:22 am »
One does not simply Video Games.

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« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2013, 05:38:13 pm »
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« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2013, 05:44:26 pm »
Ah, but where is the emacs of roguelikes?
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« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2013, 06:35:48 pm »
Ah, but where is the emacs of roguelikes?

Well, I mean, ToME and Falcon's Eye have graphics...

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« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2013, 07:57:32 pm »
Ah, but where is the emacs of roguelikes?

Well, I mean, ToME and Falcon's Eye have graphics...
But do they have a butterfly-based command?

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« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2013, 08:07:24 pm »
Ah, but where is the emacs of roguelikes?

Well, I mean, ToME and Falcon's Eye have graphics...
But do they have a butterfly-based command?
It used to be said that emacs could do everything but brew coffee.  Apparently it was said too loudly.
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« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2013, 09:06:20 pm »
Strange and wonderful things and comics from multiple people about vim and apple products crossed with emus.

Never have I felt so glad to be blissfully ignorant as I do now.

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« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2013, 09:08:42 pm »
Never have I felt so glad to be blissfully ignorant as I do now.
Do not gaze into emacs, or it will gaze back.
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« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2013, 09:12:52 pm »
Never have I felt so glad to be blissfully ignorant as I do now.
Do not gaze into emacs, or it will gaze back.

That's eerily similar to how I feel about my time in research/grad school.