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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2015, 04:42:22 AM »
Infinite Space: I have the starting ship and the first destroyer, with the latter fully equipped...with cargo holds, mostly. I have no idea how those work. Still, the battle interface makes little sense to me - am I actually using two ships in battle? I have one set of hitpoints, only ship is ever seen firing.

Approaching Infinity: Well, NO graphics I can get behind. I put god knows how many hundreds of hours into Dwarf Fortress, Nethack, Zangband...but ugly graphics are a huge problem for me. When someone puts work into something and it gets worse, then I really would have preferred the bare-bones simplicity of no graphics.
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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2015, 09:50:38 AM »
Infinite Space: I have the starting ship and the first destroyer, with the latter fully equipped...with cargo holds, mostly. I have no idea how those work. Still, the battle interface makes little sense to me - am I actually using two ships in battle? I have one set of hitpoints, only ship is ever seen firing.

Approaching Infinity: Well, NO graphics I can get behind. I put god knows how many hundreds of hours into Dwarf Fortress, Nethack, Zangband...but ugly graphics are a huge problem for me. When someone puts work into something and it gets worse, then I really would have preferred the bare-bones simplicity of no graphics.

My guess is that they probably did it because there's too many out there that seem to be almost physically unable to look at ASCII graphics.  I know a few like that.  Show them as much as you want, it'll still look like absolute gibberish to them.  And try to SELL something like that....

Nope, gotta be a tileset. Even though LOTS of tilesets are bloody awful.  But you cant sell something that "doesnt even have graphics".   Sigh...  I'll be honest, I *frequently* miss the DOS era, where *lots* of games, sold for actual money, were done entirely in ASCII.  I have about a bazillion of them. 

Well, whatever.  Silly looking though it can be, the tileset is functional enough to do it's job (and not as bad as many other tilesets I've seen).  As long as it's easy to tell what everything is, I personally have no real complaints.

Also, it seems that the developer of this one is going to continue to update it.  With additional actual content, not just bugfixes and such.  So that's good.  Though it's got a ton in there to begin with, really.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2015, 02:31:22 PM »
Infinite Space: I have the starting ship and the first destroyer, with the latter fully equipped...with cargo holds, mostly. I have no idea how those work. Still, the battle interface makes little sense to me - am I actually using two ships in battle? I have one set of hitpoints, only ship is ever seen firing.
Cargo holds generate a small amount of cash every time you dock at a spaceport. You'll want something that'll boost combat stats before long, but you'll be fine for a few sectors.

It sounds to me like you haven't equipped your second ship to the fleet. This LP on Bay12 might be able to help, but I admit I haven't read it myself. Basically you want to go to the CTA and then the fleet subsection. On the left side of the lower screen there's a square grid showing how your ships are arranged relative to one another. Drag a ship to the space to start using it. Here's the thing: your max fleet size is dependent on Yuri's skill. I don't think you have fleet commander 2 yet. That'll change really soon.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2015, 05:28:33 AM »
It could look like this: 



Which is usually the sort of look that I associate with roguelikes.
...it's probably a bad sign that that screen shot makes perfect sense to me...
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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2015, 09:24:37 AM »
...it's probably a bad sign that that screen shot makes perfect sense to me...

Eh, it makes sense to me as well.    Been a fan of that game for some time now.   Though I still dont really know adventure mode much. 

Though, this forum having people that know what's what in that screenshot doesnt surprise me  ;)

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2015, 09:26:59 AM »
...it's probably a bad sign that that screen shot makes perfect sense to me...

Eh, it makes sense to me as well.    Been a fan of that game for some time now.   Though I still dont really know adventure mode much. 

Though, this forum having people that know what's what in that screenshot doesnt surprise me  ;)
The real question is whether you'd pay $10 for a game that looks like that.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2015, 10:40:05 AM »
I'd pay 100$ for DF.
Luckily it isn't actually that expensive, so I only donated them some 15€.

Adventure mode is pretty much Dismemberment : The Game. If you're lucky it's also Dismemberment : The Game : Chapter 2 : Dying to Infections.
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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2015, 11:14:19 AM »
...it's probably a bad sign that that screen shot makes perfect sense to me...

Eh, it makes sense to me as well.    Been a fan of that game for some time now.   Though I still dont really know adventure mode much. 

Though, this forum having people that know what's what in that screenshot doesnt surprise me  ;)
The real question is whether you'd pay $10 for a game that looks like that.


I'll go with what Khan said, I'd pay a ton for that game.  I've never seen another game with the sheer ridiculous amount of depth and content as that one.  It's only real issue is the absolutely terrible, horrible learning curve of doom, and the #)%&-ing interface for setting jobs for each dwarf (that one part of the interface is SO annoying, that there's a seperate program to run alongside the game that does it in a different way, and I never, ever play without that).  That game really is proof that graphics dont make good gameplay, since the ASCII format allows for a ridiculous amount of stuff/information on the screen at once.  Also probably makes it a bazillion times easier for Toady to work on, not having to do new art for each addition.  Those who make tilesets for it can do that, I play without those though.

I think the only other games I have that gives me that kind of replay value and sheer amount of awesome stuff to do is Minecraft, and then probably AI War as well actually.

Says alot about the industry as it is today, really.  To me, anyway.  That I can pay like, $10 (if that) for games like these, that give hundreds, even thousands of hours of gameplay without getting old.... yet if I go buy a new game on console for like, $60, alot of them at that price might give like, 12 hours, maybe.  Replay value usually coming ONLY from multiplayer.  Just... ugh.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2015, 01:33:44 PM »
I totally agree that DF is the worst space game ever! There is no lasers and no space docks, only trading, and the flight physic is horrible. I won't even pay a dime for a space game like that!

(Who's out of context? You or me? First define "context". Then read the title of this thread.)

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2015, 08:30:42 PM »
....."context"?


I know not the meaning of this word.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2015, 04:20:04 AM »
This is off topic. One does not simply stay on topic in off topic.
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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #86 on: March 26, 2015, 03:26:08 AM »
please no fighting in the war room

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #87 on: April 01, 2015, 11:59:29 AM »
Blah blah blah, Endless Space was a horrendous mess, blah blah because Games 2 Gether, blah blah blah.

I'm sure people remember the gist of what I said. :P

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #88 on: April 01, 2015, 12:14:22 PM »
Blah blah blah, Endless Space was a horrendous mess, blah blah because Games 2 Gether, blah blah blah.

I'm sure people remember the gist of what I said. :P

General agreement.

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Re: The worst space game ever?
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2015, 04:09:26 PM »
I actually never followed the whole g2g affair. Can someone give me a more extensive gist of it?
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