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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2015, 03:58:49 pm »
As far as pervesions go, HuniePop  is incredibly tame. The worst is has it probably that catgirl. And she's very humanlike in her appearance. Anyone who has ever visisted a single porn site has seen worse things than anything HuniePop can throw at you :P
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2015, 04:05:06 pm »
Okay, didn't expect so much talk about HuniePop of all things, here in this place.

I'm soooooooooo tempted to make a variety of sarcastic comments on it, but.... that'd be a bit hypocritical in a few ways.  So I wont.   

Not that I own that game, mind you.  I mean, me, play a game with a zillion talky bits?  Yeah.... not happening.  I'll stick with my usual lasers and explosions.

However, everyone I know is playing the damn thing.   I swear if Steam points this out just ONE more time, I'm going to break something.  Someone I know who is online now keeps restarting that game for whatever damn reason, and Steam and it's notifications, sigh....

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2015, 04:35:46 pm »
compared to a lot of weird fetish art I like to look at on places like deviant art(weird part is that a fair deal of it is actually quite good heck ill even give you some links if your curious) hunie pop isn't even that perverted.

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As far as graphics in gaming, I like the graphics if there is an actual game behind it. I think that modern gaming has brought a lot of depth. I'm old enough to remember a lot of crappy old Nintendo games that had horrible graphics and the gameplay wasn't much better. I'm not really sure that graphics are the problem, even if they are a disproportionate investment. I think the greater problem is, developers are selling to the lowest common denominator to sell the most copies and that means a heck of a lot of content that people in this forum are above. There are a lot of nerds in this forum- I am one also- so it's no surprise that we all want a little bit of depth. I have a theory that gaming is like a bone for dogs. We need a puzzle, we need something to chew on, it has to engage our minds or we are not entertained and become bored. That's a tall order for the people here.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2015, 04:54:36 pm »
compared to a lot of weird fetish art I like to look at on places like deviant art(weird part is that a fair deal of it is actually quite good heck ill even give you some links if your curious) hunie pop isn't even that perverted.

Rooster, I can only understand you when you type one sentence. Whenever you type anything longer, my eyes go funny because it's all lowercase and with no punctuation or spacing. Inquiring minds want to know, why can you not type in readable sentences?

As far as graphics in gaming, I like the graphics if there is an actual game behind it. I think that modern gaming has brought a lot of depth. I'm old enough to remember a lot of crappy old Nintendo games that had horrible graphics and the gameplay wasn't much better. I'm not really sure that graphics are the problem, even if they are a disproportionate investment. I think the greater problem is, developers are selling to the lowest common denominator to sell the most copies and that means a heck of a lot of content that people in this forum are above. There are a lot of nerds in this forum- I am one also- so it's no surprise that we all want a little bit of depth. I have a theory that gaming is like a bone for dogs. We need a puzzle, we need something to chew on, it has to engage our minds or we are not entertained and become bored. That's a tall order for the people here.
1 yea that's why I usually dilute my posts to persifick points using the number method if there's more than a couple of sentences why do my sentences end up like this? usually because I get caught up in my own thoughts and forget completely I mean I do usually any way but it gets worse in those cases.

2 yea I pretty much agree with you there if you think about it in an abstract enough way all games are puzzles to be solved.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2015, 04:56:37 pm »
compared to a lot of weird fetish art I like to look at on places like deviant art(weird part is that a fair deal of it is actually quite good heck ill even give you some links if your curious) hunie pop isn't even that perverted.

Rooster, I can only understand you when you type one sentence. Whenever you type anything longer, my eyes go funny because it's all lowercase and with no punctuation or spacing. Inquiring minds want to know, why can you not type in readable sentences?

As far as graphics in gaming, I like the graphics if there is an actual game behind it. I think that modern gaming has brought a lot of depth. I'm old enough to remember a lot of crappy old Nintendo games that had horrible graphics and the gameplay wasn't much better. I'm not really sure that graphics are the problem, even if they are a disproportionate investment. I think the greater problem is, developers are selling to the lowest common denominator to sell the most copies and that means a heck of a lot of content that people in this forum are above. There are a lot of nerds in this forum- I am one also- so it's no surprise that we all want a little bit of depth. I have a theory that gaming is like a bone for dogs. We need a puzzle, we need something to chew on, it has to engage our minds or we are not entertained and become bored. That's a tall order for the people here.

I dunno, honestly, I can go back to most NES games and I feel I get MUCH better actual gameplay out of them, than with many major releases.  They control nicely, everything is concise and makes sense, there's no extraneous functions that end up not being used (except in RPGs), and the game doesnt treat the player like a toddler and hold their hand the whole way.  And the games actually have a skill curve, this being because they actually require some skill.  And usually the level design itself, in many games, is what teaches the player the things they need to know... instead of blocks of text or stupid cutscenes or glowy spaces with the game telling you, very very slowly, to push A or whatever while standing on that spot.

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2015, 05:06:25 pm »
Okay, didn't expect so much talk about HuniePop of all things, here in this place.

I'm soooooooooo tempted to make a variety of sarcastic comments on it, but.... that'd be a bit hypocritical in a few ways.  So I wont.   

Not that I own that game, mind you.  I mean, me, play a game with a zillion talky bits?  Yeah.... not happening.  I'll stick with my usual lasers and explosions.

However, everyone I know is playing the damn thing.   I swear if Steam points this out just ONE more time, I'm going to break something.  Someone I know who is online now keeps restarting that game for whatever damn reason, and Steam and it's notifications, sigh....
Really? I know only one other person who actually plays that game. Then again, my Steam friendlist is VERY short. I keep only people I actually know on it.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2015, 05:07:57 pm »
Back in the days of NES the games were hard not becaufe of the skill level of the game but instead that most games didn't feature some kind of saving feature at all. When you died/lost, it was for good, back at square one. That meant a loss was more severe that it is nowadays with thousands of checkpoints and "all-time" saving features. Even when you die, you wake up 5 metresaway from your last position, so who cares.
Shovel Knight is one of the rare exceptions that I really liked to play. It's very true to the old games with some exceptions. It saves only btween levels, so you either finish what you started or do it again another time. It has no lives unlike said games, so son't except a game over screen. It does feature however checkpoints but only on some rare spots in a level, so you have to work hard to rach one. In most cases you die exactly BEFORE a checkpoint. What the developers did there was really nasty, they put really dangerous obstacles right in front of the checkpoints just to mock the player. Evil geniuses indeed.
You can make it even harder for yourself, if you liekt to do so. You can DESTROY said checkpoints (only some or even all) and they don't count as checkpoint anymore, so when you die, you will either go back to the last intact one or back to the start of the level if you destroyed them all. What you get for destroying a checkpoint is rather low (you get soem money but really tiny bits not worth the effort), so it's all about the challenge. And Shovel Knight is such a hard game that a tiny mistake can kill you.

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2015, 05:13:37 pm »
Back in the days of NES the games were hard not becaufe of the skill level of the game but instead that most games didn't feature some kind of saving feature at all. When you died/lost, it was for good, back at square one. That meant a loss was more severe that it is nowadays with thousands of checkpoints and "all-time" saving features. Even when you die, you wake up 5 metresaway from your last position, so who cares.
Shovel Knight is one of the rare exceptions that I really liked to play. It's very true to the old games with some exceptions. It saves only btween levels, so you either finish what you started or do it again another time. It has no lives unlike said games, so son't except a game over screen. It does feature however checkpoints but only on some rare spots in a level, so you have to work hard to rach one. In most cases you die exactly BEFORE a checkpoint. What the developers did there was really nasty, they put really dangerous obstacles right in front of the checkpoints just to mock the player. Evil geniuses indeed.
You can make it even harder for yourself, if you liekt to do so. You can DESTROY said checkpoints (only some or even all) and they don't count as checkpoint anymore, so when you die, you will either go back to the last intact one or back to the start of the level if you destroyed them all. What you get for destroying a checkpoint is rather low (you get soem money but really tiny bits not worth the effort), so it's all about the challenge. And Shovel Knight is such a hard game that a tiny mistake can kill you.
interestingly enough that kind of no save feature still exists (mostly in rogue likes) and its treated as a special feature I believe its called perm death.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2015, 05:18:35 pm »
Steam and it's notifications, sigh....
You know you can turn those off, right?

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2015, 05:44:44 pm »
Steam and it's notifications, sigh....
You know you can turn those off, right?

That would require effort and me remembering to do so.

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2015, 05:53:55 pm »
Oh no, effort! The mean word with "E"! XD

Yeah, rogue-like still have this. Not all, but most.

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2015, 07:50:14 pm »
Oh no, effort! The mean word with "E"! XD

Yeah, rogue-like still have this. Not all, but most.
just thought id point that out since if your going to critize old games for being difficult because of that then you may as well criticize  all games with perm death since that's pretty much the same thing personally I'm glad games like that exist for the people who like that sort of thing.(my included sort of) ps granted though most percent of the time these days there at least a little bit fair and don't like to shit all over you completely like some of the much older games liked to do.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2015, 07:57:12 pm »
I'm not criticen them, lol, I loved most of this games. That's the reason why I love Rogue-likes.

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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2015, 08:04:44 pm »
I'm not criticen them, lol, I loved most of this games. That's the reason why I love Rogue-likes.
fair enough it just seemed like you were criticizing them I'm glad personally that that design philosophy is still being used. ps you misspelled criticize just thought id point that out for you.
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Re: Steam Winter holiday sale 2015
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2015, 08:40:52 pm »
Okay, thanks, but it's funny that the correction came from you.