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Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« on: April 09, 2016, 09:55:20 pm »
Bleh. This project took most of my day. I've sunk almost nine hours into it so far, and I'm nowhere near finished. >_> Got about 3-4 minutes left to arrange on the end and a ton of mastering and such to do. A lot of the instruments get drowned out in others, and some spike too loudly in some frequencies.


"A Prehistoric Tale" (AMIGA) Original.

My finished remix!

EDIT: It's finished!

« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 10:19:20 pm by Mánagarmr »
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale - WIP
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 12:17:15 pm »
that's pretty funky  you get thumbs up from me.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale - WIP
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 02:07:52 pm »
Update on the project. Working on drum dynamics now.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale - WIP
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 09:31:27 pm »
And it's done!

I'm updating the top post with the link.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2016, 10:15:14 pm »
I don't understand what I'm listening to. What did you actually do?
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2016, 10:18:23 pm »
I don't understand what I'm listening to. What did you actually do?
Compare it to the original from 1990 and on the Amiga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bzFbrufMyw

I've basically just done my own interpretation/remix of a 26 year old tune.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2016, 10:27:46 pm »
I don't understand what I'm listening to. What did you actually do?
Compare it to the original from 1990 and on the Amiga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bzFbrufMyw

I've basically just done my own interpretation/remix of a 26 year old tune.

Why is this not considered stealing?
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2016, 10:33:14 pm »
Why is this not considered stealing?

Transformative work. It's in Fair Use. And as a sidenote, Joshen Hippel (the original artist), Jogeir Liljedal, Rob Hubbard and a lot of the big giants of the age LOVE remixes and encourage people to make them.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2016, 11:18:01 pm »
Why is this not considered stealing?

Transformative work. It's in Fair Use. And as a sidenote, Joshen Hippel (the original artist), Jogeir Liljedal, Rob Hubbard and a lot of the big giants of the age LOVE remixes and encourage people to make them.

I don't understand " transformative work." Remember the "blurred lines" song? Why wasn't that a transformative work? Serious question, I really don't understand how taking someone else's stuff and mixing it is fair use. I always thought that rappers paid for drops.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2016, 11:53:37 pm »
It's transformative insomuch as this is a new arrangement, new sounds, new melodies. Sure, Jochen made the original, but remixes are in general covered under fair use. In cases where they are not (such as this might be, as it's still a close adaptation of the original in arrangement) you generally require the permission from the original author to spread it.

I can't say I'm a legal expert, but remixes in general are probably more derivative work (requires permission) rather than fully transformative now that I think about it. In any case these particular tunes can no longer be bought, the original licenseholders no longer exist and the original artists themselves encourage people to make remixes, so as far as retro VGM music goes it's pretty much green light no matter what you do.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2016, 06:11:36 am »
Remixing is pretty common, especially in the Electronica industry. I generally think they're pretty cool in the 8-bit/dubstep/techno world about people taking their music and having a creative license to do whatever they want, as long as they give the original authors the credit they deserve. It's a lot different in that genre because so much of it is made underground or as passion projects. The majority of it probably never makes it onto an official album and is often shared for free.

It's very different from the rap, pop, country industry which seems to be a lot more about fame, notoriety, and making a name for yourself than making good music, and for those reasons the rules are a little different.
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Re: Music - (AMIGA) A Prehistoric Tale
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2016, 10:35:57 am »
Well, that too. I thought he meant from a strictly legal perspective. But as you say, disregarding the law entirely, I've never heard of a composer from the C64/Amiga age ever throwing a fit over a remix. Heck, there's an entire site dedicated to that (Modarchive.org) and for general VGM remixes you have OCRemix.org.
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