Legend Of Grimrock

[Cyborg]

If you haven't tried this yet, and you are looking for a dungeon crawler (first-person perspective), this is a good one. Plenty of secrets to find, puzzles to solve, and party-based combat. There is also a story, although it is certainly not heavy on dialogue. If anyone remembers the Hunter X Hunter episodes during the Hunter exam where they are trying to descend a mountain/prison tower as a team, it's almost exactly like that.

[Mánagarmr]

It's fairly fun. Enjoying it so far, albeit some of the game mechanics are a bit wonky, and it's also a bit on the short side. All in all, a very nice dungeonhack. I like the magic system!

[zespri]

Yep, this one grabbed my attention too. It is short, but it's good while it lasts.

[Quaix]

In some ways Grimrock is diametrically opposite of what AVWW is. While AVWW is procedurally generated and everything is different every playthrough, Grimrock's world is all hand crafted with zero variation -- one playthrough is enough to see pretty much everything. And the puzzles are fun and feel old school.

[Mánagarmr]

Well, one can argue that you can try different team compositions for more playthroughs, but yeah, it's very linear. So unless you're a dungeon hack fanatic one playthrough is enough.

[Mánagarmr]

Finished it last night. Interesting story and some really hair-rippingly hard puzzles abound in this game. I liked it a lot even though I was frustrated to bits some times. I will likely not revisit it any time soon, but almost 20 hours of dungeon crawling felt just right tbh. Well worth the price.

[BobTheJanitor]

Supposedly they are going to have support for custom maps at some point, so that should give some new life to it. I loved it when I played through it, but the replay value is definitely low. I went through with the default characters once, and then thought I'd give it a try with a custom group, but I only got a couple floors down before other games started looking more fun and I gave up on it.

[Mánagarmr]

The dungeon editor is soon out: Youtube.

[zespri]

Just came across this one again in my steam library. God, I hate the "round in circles as much as you can" combat style. The game is good, and the combat style is the worst part.

[Wingflier]

When the combat is the worst element of *any* game, it's not a good sign

[Misery]

When the combat is the worst element of *any* game, it's not a good sign

Aye, this.

I've only seen this one in videos, but.... this is the sort of game where you need only see it, not play it, to see how bad a particular aspect is.

And the combat looks downright hideous. 

The game seems interesting overall, but.... ugh.  If they're gonna make the fighting THAT bad, just take it out and make it a game focused on puzzles and such. 



....looking in my Steam collection it seems I already have the game.  I'm not sure why.  Aint touched it though.

[Toranth]

It's old school.  The combat isn't that bad (except for those frikkin' ant hordes), it's just very simple.  Position plays a very important role in determining who attacks, who defends, what damage bonuses get applied...
It's not creative or deep by any means.  But it's hardly so bad that you shouldn't play the game.

[zespri]

On harder difficulties you get less opportunities to heal. This means you need to get hit less. What game offers to you in this respect? How do you actually get hit less? Well, the only way is to make circles constantly to avoid enemy hits while still managing to hit them every now and then. Not the style of combat I would enjoy - also the fact that this is the only way is boring and repetitive.

[Mick]

On harder difficulties you get less opportunities to heal. This means you need to get hit less. What game offers to you in this respect? How do you actually get hit less? Well, the only way is to make circles constantly to avoid enemy hits while still managing to hit them every now and then. Not the style of combat I would enjoy - also the fact that this is the only way is boring and repetitive.

That sounds dreadful.

[Mánagarmr]

Yeah, the circling is a bit boring but thankfully combat is a very small part of the game. Most of it's really puzzle solving.