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Hey guys,

So spam and spambots has been one of those ongoing bugbears.  A year or two ago we got slammed really hard with just torrential spam, and so we added cloudflare.  That has a lot of advantages, such as also improving site loading times, DDOS protection, and other stuff.  However, for some users that are legitimate but unlucky, it would "challenge" them with a captcha or something on that order every time they tried to do a new post.

Now we're getting more spam again, and have been over the last few months.  A few things:

1. I realized that our forums were a bit out of date on their versions for security fixes.  That's been updated.

2. I have added a new service called Cleantalk, which is specifically designed at blocking spambots and which will hopefully impact regular users less.

3. To see about that, I've basically lowered the cloudflare anti-spam protection levels to being near-off.  If that proves problematic, I'll turn it back up, but hopefully between cleantalk and/or this we can weed out the bulk of the spam that we're currently seeing.


Anyway, if anyone runs into anything strange or has comments on how the new thing affects them (hopefully it will not), then please let me know!

EDIT: Oh, and also, the Captcha for the forums itself, as well as the questions that a new user has to answer, are all turned off now.  Between Cloudflare and Cleantalk those should be overkill for sure, and I know people hated them.  Cleantalk claims that they are not needed if you use their service, so we'll see.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 10:11:01 am by x4000 »
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2014, 10:12:49 am »
You no take away kitchin posts!

;)

Thanks for updating SMF in particular, between that and the cloudflare changes it seems to have fixed the longstanding issue that "Insert Quote" didn't work!  There will be much rejoicing.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 08:47:27 pm by x4000 »
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2014, 10:35:39 am »
Yeah, I actually tagged some spambots as "spam -- not about kitchin!!" the other day. ;)

I had been looking for SMF updates periodically a while back, but there just were none... it seemed.  Apparently I was doing something wrong, or it was further back than I remember, or something.  Because we were on 2.02 and the new version is 2.07.  So that's quite a lot of updates we missed, and those dates go back to 2012 at least.  I'm not sure what happened there, I usually try to keep up to date.

Anyway, I'm glad that insert quote works again! :D
« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 08:47:44 pm by x4000 »
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 03:46:57 pm »
Let's see what happens if I say the word i am spam.  Excellent!  That was "the room in your house where you make food."
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 04:20:19 pm »
Let's see what happens if I say the word i am spam.  Excellent!  That was "the room in your house where you make food."

Ok this thread is hilarious, because your changes must be working.  ;D

you cook spam in the kitchen. haha.

I hope I don't get flagged by the system for that.  :P

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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 04:23:02 pm »
Oh wow, I did not know it was retroactive!  That is hilarious indeed!
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 08:21:25 pm »
Anyone want to buy a Cyborg sneak spam oven?


Interesting, that particular word is now censored.

… Sorry, is it too soon?  ;D
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 08:46:21 pm »
 :D

Congratulations, just for fun you now have your own named one, same as Lancefighter.  Not because it matters, just for kicks.  :)
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2014, 01:52:47 am »
So i am spam = spam now?

-Beautiful.

Didn't take them long to adapt to the changes though. Pretty persistent and resilient for marketing bots.


There should be a [That which must not be named] Salesman AI Type.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.

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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2014, 03:20:25 am »

There should be a [That which must not be named] Salesman AI Type.

You probably were joking.. but that's exactly how this spam type works. The scripts are extremely complex, and they have huge databases of proper syntax that they module together as they need. Whenever they notice a post does not read like their input, they switch to another syntax module and it repeats...

You can't beat spam bots... sadly. They are smart enough that you can actually not always tell when something is spam or not ;) (Some certain type of tech support posts for example..)
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Re: Updated version of SMF, decreased cloudflare, added cleantalk.
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 03:26:21 am »
I guessed that there was something like that, but my actual knowledge of AI programming is pretty much zero.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.