Another Board Game Thread

[Echo35]

Mage Knight is... yeah, nowhere close to a beginner game. I love it to death, but man it's crunchy.

I know those two are very different games and hard to compare, but from the point of view of overall complexity which is more complex, Mage Knights or Android: Netrunner?

Mage Knight is more complex, by far. Netrunner has a lot of complexity, but it's mostly in the way that the game is played (Lots of bluffing, etc).

[zespri]

Mage Knight is... yeah, nowhere close to a beginner game. I love it to death, but man it's crunchy.

I know those two are very different games and hard to compare, but from the point of view of overall complexity which is more complex, Mage Knights or Android: Netrunner?

Mage Knight is more complex, by far. Netrunner has a lot of complexity, but it's mostly in the way that the game is played (Lots of bluffing, etc).

In what way Mage Knight is complex? (as opposed to the way the game is played)

[madcow]

I've never played Netrunner, but it sounds like he's saying the complexity in it is from player interactions and trying to read the other.

The complexity in mageknight (which I have played, and honestly didn't care for myself, though many seem to swear by it) is in rule keeping, and the fact that the game is basically a puzzle which you try to solve via the cards in your hand.

[Echo35]

I've never played Netrunner, but it sounds like he's saying the complexity in it is from player interactions and trying to read the other.

The complexity in mageknight (which I have played, and honestly didn't care for myself, though many seem to swear by it) is in rule keeping, and the fact that the game is basically a puzzle which you try to solve via the cards in your hand.

Make Knight has a LOT of rules and exceptions, as well as tons of fiddly bits. That's in addition to th challenge of the game itself, being very heavy on hand management and the like.

Netrunner on the other hand, while fairly complex compared to other card games, is easily enough to sit town and teach someone. The complexity in that game comes from card interactions, setting up combos, and reading/countering your opponent (Much as you would in Magic, only more so, partly because there's a lot going on with a heavier focus on bluffing and misdirection, and partly because it's a fixed set game, so every player has equal access to every card).

[madcow]

I agree pretty much dead-on with what you said about Mage knight. Really turned me off from the game, and I just don't see why everybody loves it. I like the arkham horror games though, so it's not just the fiddliness that got to me, it's that combined with (to me) unfun gameplay.

It's even worse in multiplayer and gets worse the more people are playing, as its basically a solo score attack type game with heavy puzzle elements. Hello huge downtime between turns even when playing with the most decisive of players.