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Offline ShadowOTE

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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2010, 05:12:39 pm »
Heh, i probably should have pointed out that I in no way support pirating, but from a purely practical standpoint, if you're given a choice between free and less buggy, or $50 and more buggy, chances are you're going to take the free version. You pretty much summed up my arguements though: both pirates and harsh DRM countermeasures are wrong. We're buying a game, not an ongoing contract with the company (yes, patches and minor bug fixes are nice, but they aren't strictly speaking necessary unless they're game-breaking, and if you want you could just offer them via DLC or expansions for people interested in buying them).

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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2010, 08:05:55 pm »
Mhh, i think.. The Theory of Conflict Escalation rules humanity. And DRM is the nuclear weapon for corporate moneybags. While piracy is the nuclear weapon for people who want to stick to the man.

We are already at nuclear war. And nobody is going to step down. The more one sided pushes the harsher the other side will oppose. SH5 is uncracked as of yet. But Splinter Cell Conviction (using same UBI DRM) was cracked 0-day.

Ubisoft DRM is officially cracked. And its been shown it can be done quickly. With this Ubisofts DRM Scam is now *only* hurting customers. And Pirates get a fully working superior product.
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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2010, 01:56:05 am »
We all have power outages [...] This should not freeze the game.

I'm pretty sure anytime you lose power the game should stop :s

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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2010, 03:49:48 am »
he obviously has a power backup

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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2010, 02:56:21 pm »
Often time we'll see fashions go full circle where something is popular for a few years, and then decades later becomes fashionable anew.  This seem to be the case with technology in many cases as well.

3D television is a good example, it's come and gone over the years; although better in each iteration.  I was somewhat joking, but I observed the other day that "phone will probably have a feature soon which will audibly speak the text messages you receive.  As audibly spoken text messages become more popular, it's only a matter of time before someone creates a device where one person can speak to another in the own voice, in real time."

I would guess most often the choice to include DRM in games comes from the executives who are out of touch with what is really going on.  The general buzz in the industry is that DRM stops piracy, but from my perspective that doesn't appear to be the case.  It's interesting to note that many indie developers - you know, those small business where the guy who does the work is also the guy making the important decisions? - indie developers often do not include DRM of any kind.  I applaud their pro-customer stance.

I would love to see an, obviously satirical, buzz begin touting these "pro-customer."  The executives of the world hear "we hate DRM" as idle complaints from consumers.  Talk of the most basic features such as the ability to install a game on a computer with an internet connection, or install the game to multiple computers as a "new and exciting technology" might influence these executives a little more; and the satire would be great.  Basically, focus on the positive rather than complain of the negatives.

Or maybe I'm just anxious to once hear an interviewer ask a Ubisoft executive in an interview:  "Many successful games companies are now offering the ability to install games on multiple computers, and even on computers without internet connections.  Can we expect to see these exciting new features in upcoming Ubisoft games?"

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Re: Ubisoft goes completely Insane - Starts new harsh DRM Initiative
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2010, 03:21:17 pm »
It's not that big of a deal, who really cares if you have to be online to play a game, most people are anyway, so what dose it matter?

This excuse appears throughout history whenever freedoms are lost.  "It's not a big deal, it doesn't effect most people, [and it certainly doesn't effect me]."  The same excuse is made when privacy rights are taken so that government can see and control more.  "I doesn't effect me, I have nothing to hide."  The same excuse has been acted out, and even believed, during genocide.

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    For genocide to happen, there must be certain preconditions. Foremost among them is a national culture that does not place a high value on human life. A totalitarian society, with its assumed superior ideology, is also a precondition for genocidal acts.  In addition, members of the dominant society must perceive their potential victims as less than fully human: as “pagans,” “savages,” “uncouth barbarians,” “unbelievers,” “effete degenerates,” “ritual outlaws,” “racial inferiors,” “class antagonists,” “counterrevolutionaries,” and so on.  In themselves, these conditions are not enough for the perpetrators to commit genocide. To do that—that is, to commit genocide—the perpetrators need a strong, centralized authority and bureaucratic organization as well as pathological individuals and criminals. Also required is a campaign of vilification and dehumanization of the victims by the perpetrators, who are usually new states or new regimes attempting to impose conformity to a new ideology and its model of society.

    – M. Hassan Kakar

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First, I know these are only video games were talking about, but see how the mindset is so similar in the early stages.

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Foremost among them is a national culture that does not place a high value on human life.
Does Ubisoft highly value my rights as a paying customer?  Do they let my play my game when, where, and how I please?
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A totalitarian society, with its assumed superior ideology, is also a precondition for genocidal acts.
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Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state, usually under the control of a single political person, faction, or class, recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible.
I must apologize.  I mistakingly suggested in my earlier comment that I actually owned the Ubisoft game I purchased when I said "my game".  Ubisoft owns the game, and all the rights of usage, I only have a license which can be revoked or changed at any time for any reason.  In fairness though, I did agree to all this when installing the game.
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