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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2013, 08:09:47 am »
It's a shame that sales aren't currently at the level you were expecting. I don't really see what more you could have done. The game is really polished. Currently rogue-lites are in fashion. Lots of Let's Player attention. Great reviews. Personally I think that the quality of the game will ensure solid sales in the long-term. I've got a hunch that one of the bigger Let's Players might be attracted to the game, too. Maybe one of the Yogscasters. I guess there's not much point in asking how the Linux sales are going?

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2013, 08:31:04 am »
It's a shame that sales aren't currently at the level you were expecting. I don't really see what more you could have done. The game is really polished. Currently rogue-lites are in fashion. Lots of Let's Player attention. Great reviews. Personally I think that the quality of the game will ensure solid sales in the long-term. I've got a hunch that one of the bigger Let's Players might be attracted to the game, too. Maybe one of the Yogscasters. I guess there's not much point in asking how the Linux sales are going?

One of the Yogscasters picking up on this would certainly be nice. :)

As for Linux sales, at the moment, they are pretty bleak but 1.) Getting this game on Linux should help pave the way to get our older titles on there eventually.

2.) We've been a non-Linux dev for so long that I'm sure a lot of Linux-only gamers don't give us a lot of attention... yet.

3.) The Linux thing was kinda last minute, so, there's no surprise that that isn't known about yet. But I'm sure those sales will go up as the word gets out.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2013, 08:42:23 am »
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As for Linux sales, at the moment, they are pretty bleak but 1.) Getting this game on Linux should help pave the way to get our older titles on there eventually.

2.) We've been a non-Linux dev for so long that I'm sure a lot of Linux-only gamers don't give us a lot of attention... yet.

3.) The Linux thing was kinda last minute, so, there's no surprise that that isn't known about yet. But I'm sure those sales will go up as the word gets out.

Cool. Thanks for the info. I hope sales pick up.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2013, 09:55:01 am »
Hey,

I just registered here to tell you guys how amazing your new game is - please excuse the sloppy use of the english language, as it's not my first language. It's my second Arcen game after Skyward Collapse (&addon) and in it's own way even more fun than Skyward.

It's been a while since I got so many fun hours of gametime for such good prices - also I can't believe how polished your titles are in comparison to a lot of games with much higher budgets.

Hopefully you'll get a lot more spotlight/coverage for Bionic Dues and all your future titles (Starport 28 sounds amazing, even though nobody knows how exactly the game will be like. For me, the name brings back good memories from dear old Startopia) in order to broaden the audience of your games. At least RPS just posted something about the release, but on the youtube-side it looks kinda sad.

best of luck to you!


edit: Out of couriosity, because I don't know a thing about promotion of Indie titles: Have you sent review copies to the likes of TotalBiscuit (big youtubers who might be into games like this) to try to get them play the title? Or are those channels to big to even care about such "small" projects?
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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2013, 10:04:47 am »
edit: Out of couriosity, because I don't know a thing about promotion of Indie titles: Have you sent review copies to the likes of TotalBiscuit (big youtubers who might be into games like this) to try to get them play the title? Or are those channels to big to even care about such "small" projects?

Thanks for the kind words.

We do send our games out to youtubers that we think might like the game, both big and small.

As for TB specifically, I know for a fact he's aware of the game. Weather or not he covers it is up to him. He doesn't take requests from devs or fans, so out side making sure he's aware of the game, that's all that can be done.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2013, 11:35:55 am »
Slow start huh? I'll be sure to spread the word. By the way, was the youtuber OverTheGun among those who got a review copy of the game? His "Indiegestion" videos are pretty good.

The Steam-only part did scare me for a minute, but as long as the game remains independent I'm okay with it. I just don't want to see "Your game is unavailable for now because Steam doesn't feel like it. Try again later."

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2013, 11:36:25 am »
Will anakysize more later, but the rougelike audience is a sliver of the strategy audience. of course it will sell worst. with no demo, many assume in difficulty the defeault as the in game expert  difficulty, and that doesnt appeal to most players.

A rougelike with no demo simply will be ignored by many outright. In no snall part becauuse players think it will be hard. with no demo, it cannot be disproven really.

The game lacks an easy "hook" as well, unlike Skyward.
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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2013, 12:07:19 pm »
Will anakysize more later, but the rougelike audience is a sliver of the strategy audience. of course it will sell worst. with no demo, many assume in difficulty the defeault as the in game expert  difficulty, and that doesnt appeal to most players.

A rougelike with no demo simply will be ignored by many outright. In no snall part becauuse players think it will be hard. with no demo, it cannot be disproven really.

The game lacks an easy "hook" as well, unlike Skyward.

Not quite true.   A niche audience, sure, but there's a lot more people in that community than you might think.  The sheer number of roguelikes getting made and released all the time is proof of that.   I've lost count of how many I now have.    Games like Dredmore also prove it wrong, as that game sold VERY well.   It didn't really have any "hooks" either; it's a very traditional roguelike.  It did well though because plenty were interested in that kind of game, and be cause it was a high quality game, and also because it was advertised like crazy, as indie advertising goes.  I was aware of it many months before it came out, and it had a rather crowded beta.

If anything, Skyward is even more niche than this one.  Responses from people finding this one have been along the lines of " wow, this looks great! A roguelike from Arcen!"  Whereas a common response I saw with Skyward was "what the heck is this? I'm not sure what's going on in this game". 

Neither the roguelike genre or the "god-game" subgenre are as big as the overall strategy genre, but they appeal to the same type of players. Most strategy fans that I've met also play one or both of those two types.

You have a point about the lack of a demo though.  This game does kinda need one.  There's already been plenty of people asking for one.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2013, 12:09:02 pm »
While I'm not saying that we will or will not have a demo, I will point out that Dredmor does NOT have one. At least, none that I could find in the last 5 minutes.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2013, 12:10:06 pm »
I am uploading a tri-platform demo as we speak, fyi.
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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2013, 12:18:45 pm »
All righty, demo is now out.
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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2013, 12:27:18 pm »
I wanted to say that Bionic Dues is quite an enjoyable roguelike, after spending a few months playing nethack it's nice to have non-ascii graphics.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2013, 12:43:45 pm »
Thank you thank you to everyone here offering support and kind words. :)

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2013, 12:50:47 pm »
There's a pretty friendly review on PAR. Also the lone metacritic review and the user scores are good.

I really don't know what to say. You can only really control the "make a good game" part, and you accomplished that by pretty much every measure. Is it possible that it's just the time of year? So much stuff comes out in the fall that it's hard to get the attention of the gaming press.

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Re: Bionic Dues Now Available on Steam, Arcen Store
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2013, 01:15:49 pm »
That PA Report review could be a big deal.