Author Topic: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!  (Read 2756 times)

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Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« on: July 03, 2014, 04:10:08 PM »
(Crossposted from this blog post)

This one introduces two new options for your beta-testing pleasure (if you use the in-game updater to get the beta version) :

Dead Is Dead
If you enable this optional rule at the beginning of the game, and an exo is destroyed during a mission, it is not replaced after the mission.

On Your Toes
If you enable this optional rule at the beginning of the game, and you take more than 5 seconds to issue a command during a mission the game automatically issues the "wait" command for you.

You can use both if you like, and even combine them with Ironman.  But that sounds kind of... intense.

Anyway, I hope many of you enjoy these, and let us know what you think.  These are still in beta and I imagine they'll need fixes and tweaks to fully fit.  We'll see!

Enjoy!

This is a beta update delivered through the in-game updater, if you already have 1.008 or later. When you launch the game, you'll see the notice of the update having been found if you're connected to the Internet at the time.
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 04:24:33 PM »
Nice. :)
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 04:48:01 PM »
Cool stuff!
Any chance for you to add a set of associated achievements?
Or is this just too much effort for the amount of time available?
Would be good Motivation to try these...
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2014, 05:41:19 PM »
Cool stuff!
Any chance for you to add a set of associated achievements?
Or is this just too much effort for the amount of time available?
Would be good Motivation to try these...
Yes, I want to add achievements for them.  But first seeing how they shake out in practice, and there may be other achievements to add with the batch, etc.
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 02:45:56 AM »
Sounds good!

Regarding the "Dead is Dead" conduct:

There was an idea being thrown around when this was first discussed to grant the player a replacement exo when caturing a bahamuth facility.

Do you plan on adding something along this line?
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 11:23:13 AM »
Sounds good!

Regarding the "Dead is Dead" conduct:

There was an idea being thrown around when this was first discussed to grant the player a replacement exo when caturing a bahamuth facility.

Do you plan on adding something along this line?
I hadn't planned on it, but perhaps it could be done.  Though I'd like to avoid "options that have options" :)
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2014, 11:30:11 AM »
It always could be non-optional of course ;)...
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2014, 04:32:19 PM »
Ah, a nice reason to get a few new games of Bionic in.  :)  Thank you for the nice update.

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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2014, 03:34:44 AM »
....wait, what?  You just released an update to BD?  ....what?

Division by zero, does not compute.

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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2014, 10:42:22 AM »
....wait, what?  You just released an update to BD?  ....what?

Division by zero, does not compute.
I've been wanting to get back to it for a while, and that just happened to translate to now :)
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 11:25:41 AM »
The "on your toes" feature is a lot of fun.  More Roguelikes should incorporate this. 

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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2014, 12:10:20 PM »
The "on your toes" feature is a lot of fun.  More Roguelikes should incorporate this.
Glad you're enjoying it :)

It would be an interesting advanced option for other roguelikes but it wouldn't be as good of a fit because there can be many more options to have to consider, and a much higher cost for dying (in terms of playtime; in Bionic you can recover from a death, and even a total mission failure isn't necessarily game-over).

But here I think it's pretty cool.
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 06:05:47 PM »
It would be an interesting advanced option for other roguelikes but it wouldn't be as good of a fit because there can be many more options to have to consider, and a much higher cost for dying (in terms of playtime; in Bionic you can recover from a death, and even a total mission failure isn't necessarily game-over).

But in some of those same roguelikes have the problem of having so much info that they just lead to analysis paralysis. I think that they might do well with some type of timer (though more than 5 seconds.)

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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2014, 04:50:17 PM »
Finally got a hand on these to give them a try.
Both conducts seem to work fine!

So far the 5s threshold for "on your toes" feels about right.

One thing I noticed is that the yellow "Customize" arrow shown on the City Map will no longer be drawn once the first exo is dead. You might want to remedy that...

Will test these some more when I find time.

Thanks for the new stuff anyway!
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Re: Bionic Dues Beta 1.009 "Be On Your Toes" Released!
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 05:02:24 PM »
Finally got a hand on these to give them a try.
Both conducts seem to work fine!
Glad to hear it :)

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One thing I noticed is that the yellow "Customize" arrow shown on the City Map will no longer be drawn once the first exo is dead. You might want to remedy that...
Whoops, thanks for letting me know.

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Are there, by chance, any more small things waiting ;)?
Yea, there's various things.  Partly I was waiting to see how stable these were, partly I was waiting to see if anybody would actually play with the new stuff ;)
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