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Offline Oralordos

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Where are the manual update files
« on: February 27, 2012, 04:40:01 pm »
I was trying to get an old mac to play AVWW but I found that the updater couldn't run for some reason. I looked for the files manually but I was unable to find them. This works for AI War, but I am unable to find the ones for AVWW.

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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 04:45:38 pm »
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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 03:23:24 pm »
Hi there. I'm running Windows 7 and have just downloaded AVWW. My Version is 0.541 and the game tells me that it has detected 26 updates. After downloading them the updater starts and shows this message:

There has been an error.
Error reading file C:/Program File/Indie Games/A Valley Eithout Wind/RuntimeData/updates/updatelist.txt
The application will exit now.

I've checked and the folder .../updates is empty. The fix earlier on this page doesn't work either.
I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this problem.

edit: I've downloaded the game via GamesStop. Just in case it's relevant.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2012, 04:11:16 pm by DonLyn »

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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 04:52:11 pm »
Hey there, spry about the delay -- at pax east. The problem you are having is almost definitely that you don't have proper permissions to your avww folder. Avww requires that you have full admin rights to that folder, but windows doesn't grant that by default on window vista and 7 even if you are an admin.

What windows seems to do in this situation is to not deny programs writing to that folder, but instead has them write to a shadow folder that is retained for the execution context of that program. So when your games save, it goes to the shadow folder, and you can reload them, etc. When you download the updates, that's also where they go.

However, then the updater program is launched, and it runs in a way that it looks to the actual folder mentioned, and not the shadow copy. So, naturally, it finds nothing and fails.

When you have proper access rights to that folder, two things will happen: first, you'll be able to download updates with no problem; second, you'll lose all access to your settings file and savegames, because windows will detect it doesnt need to look in the shadow folder anymore. Thanks windows.

But the good news is that those files do exist somewhere or other in your c:\users directory. If you search for the name of your world, or for settings.dat, you should find the shadow folder and just be able to copy those files into the real folder. If you happen to have the name of the specific folder in question and don't mind sharing, that might be helpful to other players, actually -- up to you.

The root of the problem is that impulse apparently did not set the permissions properly on your folder when it installed the game. Our installer does this, but I'll have to talk to them about he permissions and make sure that happens through their client also. Thanks for letting us know about it!
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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 05:15:11 pm »
To let you know the hidden folder is known as the Virtual Store. It can be found in the hidden AppData folder in your user folder. It has a nice mirror of the rest of your computer. If AVWW is found at C:\Program Files\AVWW then you can find the hidden files at C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\AVWW. Copy those files over to your main AVWW folder to get your saves and such into where they are supposed to be.

You can edit the permissions on the AVWW folder by right clicking it, pressing Properties, and clicking the Security tab. Everything from there on out should be self-explanitory. Come back here if you need more help.

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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 05:18:30 pm »
Virtual Store
I must be getting too old: I prefer it when a filesystem operation would either succeed or fail, and generally you would be able to tell which.

But thanks for the clarification :)
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Re: Where are the manual update files
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 06:31:16 pm »
Eureka! It works!
And it looks even better than the 0.541 Version.
Too bad it's already after midnight in Germany and time for bed... *sigh*

Thank you very much for your help.