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Offline mlah

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No cedar logs
« on: May 31, 2012, 05:22:36 PM »
I am on the third continent but I can't find any cedar logs. I have checked an entire thawing plain, grassland, thawing woods, and grassland with groves. I am not sure if this a problem with the chunk generation or the drop system because I used to get tons of them and don't remember what they dropped from.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 05:58:38 PM »
Welcome to the forums :)

Can you post your world folder so we can take a look?
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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 06:16:38 PM »
Actually, I can tell you that the thawing ones have no cedar logs whatsoever, as they don't have cedars.  The grasslands with groves I think also don't have any (or at least many) cedars.  Just in for the next version:

* Updated the description text on the cedar logs to be more clear, as well as more accurate for changes to the recent versions.
** Cedar logs are created when your spells destroy cedar trees, which can be found mainly in the (non-thawing) ice age and abandoned towns, and to a lesser extent in the grasslands.
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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 08:48:53 PM »
Here is the world file. Don't think I have any abandoned town in my non storm area. :( I will keep checking the grasslands then.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 08:50:53 PM »
No, no -- not grasslands.  Go for the ice age, but not the thawing ice age.  Tons of them there.
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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 11:59:39 PM »
I've got a second continent which spawned with only 3 abandoned settlements as a source of cedar logs available. I've already cleared out every single one of those settlements for logs, and am still short of 9 cedar logs in order to progress by building an aquamancer's well so that I can actually get to the rest of the continent (where hopefully, cedar logs exist).

Do cedar trees respawn? Because if they don't, this continent is unsolveable.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 07:23:56 AM »
I've got a second continent which spawned with only 3 abandoned settlements as a source of cedar logs available. I've already cleared out every single one of those settlements for logs, and am still short of 9 cedar logs in order to progress by building an aquamancer's well so that I can actually get to the rest of the continent (where hopefully, cedar logs exist).

Do cedar trees respawn? Because if they don't, this continent is unsolveable.

They don't respawn. Are there no accessible Ice Age regions around?

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 08:03:06 AM »
They're all thawing regions and have no cedar logs whatsoever.



I really don't want to have to start a new world, but I might have no choice.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 08:28:32 AM »
Do you mind uploading your world? I'll see if I can take a look.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 10:25:38 AM »
There should always, always be at least some regions of every type on every continent.  Most likely they are down south of the water or something of that nature.
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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 12:02:34 PM »
If you get our door missions on those areas (battlegrounds, boss towers, and so forth) the areas that spawn will also include trees that you can harvest for cedar. They are essentially infinite since you can cancel the mission to "fail" it then start it again and it'll get a completely new instance you can farm.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 02:39:38 PM »
Sorry, went to sleep for a bit - uploaded the entire world to mediafire (I hope you have 7zip installed)

http://www.mediafire.com/?ul0rtfkc20ge1ve

There should always, always be at least some regions of every type on every continent.  Most likely they are down south of the water or something of that nature.

The entire south area is inaccessible, as you can see from that picture. The only way to get to it is through a boat, but the port has stormy weather and it's impossible to board any ship there without clearing the storm first. But to clear the storm, I need a level 3 Aquamancer well, which requires cedar logs to build, so that's a catch-22. Note that I did not waste cedar logs meaninglessly - I found 22 in total, then I built the residential building (10 logs), the stonemason's building (10 logs, requirement for aquamancer well) and am still short 8 logs for the well itself. If I had built something irrelevant, the situation would be even worse.

I also checked the wiki, which suggested that "cedar logs can be found underground in caverns". I went hunting for 2 hours in the abandoned town caverns and found absolutely no cedar logs.

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"In caverns, there's even more: granite, quartz, and other goodies abound. There are sources of cedar logs and of refined lumber. Way more consciousness shard caches, in general, per cave. "

As far I know, this is actually incorrect. I do try to troubleshoot my own problems before bringing them up. :(

If you get our door missions on those areas (battlegrounds, boss towers, and so forth) the areas that spawn will also include trees that you can harvest for cedar. They are essentially infinite since you can cancel the mission to "fail" it then start it again and it'll get a completely new instance you can farm.

A recent patch changed it so that overworld door missions don't spawn in stormy areas. Those 3 city areas are stormy, so that doesn't work. There were some door missions, but I cleared them all looking for cedar logs, since I didn't know about this. Can't re-enter.
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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 10:37:28 AM »
Ok, you're right, there's a problem here, but, you won't have to start a new world. Here's what I did, we have a dev tool that allows us to re-create chunks. So, I re-created them a few times and kept going through and clearing out the cedar trees until you had 10 logs. You are now in your settlement with 11 cedar logs. Not much else has changed, you have a few more c-shards, and the first chunks of those regions will look a bit different, but, you should be good to keep going now. Let me know if you have any other issues.

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 10:47:08 AM »
Thank you! I really appreciate it.

I have a few thoughts about the resource system, but I'll save those for another time. It's not like you've a paucity of feedback. :P

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Re: No cedar logs
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2012, 10:50:42 AM »
You're welcome. Also, while we certainly don't mind more feedback, we do have some plans to change some of how the resource stuff works in the pretty near future. So, you may like those changes.