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Offline dodge83

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youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« on: January 12, 2017, 02:27:06 PM »
will making you tube videos and live streams be permitted for ai war 2?
or should i wait untill the early access or full release?

basically i am asking is there anything at any point we will have already or will agree to in the future about making public youtube videos or video on other sites during the private alpha or early access release

some developers can be funny/awkward about public videos being made of the product before public release in alpha and beta tests

and another question will the music people be making copyright claims for the music in ai war 2 on youtube thus preventing me monetizing the videos?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2017, 02:41:40 PM by dodge83 »
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Re: youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 02:44:54 PM »
some developers can be funny/awkward about public videos being made of the product before public release in alpha and beta tests

When the only thing being shown of the game is buggy alpha coverage, who can blame them? That kind of first impression can stick around. (And that's not to mention the whole "the video showed a feature that isn't in the release!" because they tried something and decided to remove it, which is pretty common in development.)
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Re: youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 02:52:27 PM »
some developers can be funny/awkward about public videos being made of the product before public release in alpha and beta tests

When the only thing being shown of the game is buggy alpha coverage, who can blame them? That kind of first impression can stick around. (And that's not to mention the whole "the video showed a feature that isn't in the release!" because they tried something and decided to remove it, which is pretty common in development.)

this is why i am asking now before i get my hands on the game and before agreeing something i and others probably wont read
i am fine with no yes and please add alpha testing in titles
« Last Edit: January 12, 2017, 03:01:47 PM by dodge83 »
This is being used for ai war 2 alpha testing:


Processor
AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor
 
Video Card
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 370 Series
 
RAM
8.0 GB
 
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 (build 14393), 64-bit

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Re: youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 03:53:44 PM »
We're happy to have any streams or coverage, and there's no black-out on that sort of thing.  I would request that you use your best judgement with it in terms of what you show and how (with a little alpha footage disclaimer watermark, or whatever), but my assumptions are twofold:

1. If someone is an alpha backer, they want to see this succeed and are simultaneously willing to see the guts of the hotdog-making processes.

2. Given that there is a well-established template for how this works (AI War Classic), it should be reasonably clear where things are in progress for someone who's a fan of the game.  Going "there's only X number of ship types??" when it's the earliest days is hopefully not going to happen, and hopefully any performance issues are things where we get reports and specs and can fix them (probably within a day or two), versus fatalistic "oh well I guess it's broken forever."

Anyhow, my assumption is basically that people in the alpha will take the alpha for what it is, and not go too crazy comparing it to a finished project; there's a reason it's not even in Early Access at that point, and it's not just that we're being snooty about who gets in.  I'm really happy for people to do videos and livestreams and so forth during that period, and I'll be doing videos of it myself, too.

Anyhow!  Monetization is absolutely a-ok as well, and Pablo isn't coming after folks with copyright strikes.  Definitely better safe than sorry, but I'm not about to try to gag folks.  I hope people will act in a collaborative manner with us (this and that needs to be better, and actually file a bug report) versus what happens with a lot of the developers that don't actually listen to any feedback and thus people kind of rage against the machine.

Cheers!
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Re: youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2017, 04:59:22 PM »
It might not be a bad idea to include a guide for "how to open a good bug report" with the alpha release. What sorts of debug data is important, how to collect it, how one writes a clear and helpful ticket and so on. I'm sure there will be plenty of willing hands, but it might make Arcen's life easier if there is a clear mandate for how to go about it. Something like "If the problem is reproducible, enable Debugging flags X and Y and attach the resulting log file Z"

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Re: youtube or other video site during private alpha permitted?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 09:18:27 AM »
Very true -- we've done that before with Stars Beyond Reach, and we'll definitely be sure to do that again here.  Good thought!
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