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Title: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 21, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
Someone asked about this on Steam, so I thought I'd post the portrait art for the various leaders from Stars Beyond Reach that are for the three alien races that are also in AI War (1 and 2).  This isn't what the ships look like, but this is what their individuals look like.

First, on this post, here are some Neinzul.  They are living spaceships, in essence.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 21, 2016, 03:24:46 PM
Now the zenith!
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 21, 2016, 03:25:24 PM
And lastly the spire. :)
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Toranth on September 21, 2016, 03:58:51 PM
Oooh, neato.
Spire look much more organic than I had imagined them.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Draco18s on September 21, 2016, 04:22:13 PM
Very cool.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: chemical_art on September 21, 2016, 04:23:24 PM
I will be _that_guy_

this art is ok. But the stuff Blue makes now is far better.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: crazyroosterman on September 21, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
I will be _that_guy_

this art is ok. But the stuff Blue makes now is far better.
your profile picture fits that perfectly (:
but seriously even though I'm not interested in the game it self I am interested in the lore around the zenith after what was revealed in stars is that going to affect them mechanically at all in this game? or have you not decided on that yet?.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Captain Jack on September 21, 2016, 05:31:24 PM
They are living spaceships, in essence.
Correction: Both Zenith and Neinzul are living spaceships, and the Spire have a strong argument to that effect as well. They came to that point very differently.

It is most correct to say that the Neinzul evolved specifically to travel in space while others evolved planetside and then induced spaceflight capability in themselves.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 21, 2016, 08:38:11 PM
Makes sense, Jack. :)
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Timerlane on September 21, 2016, 09:21:56 PM
Are the Zenith here literally Golems(Armored, Botnet, and Regenerator), or are they smaller 'versions' that (obviously)strongly resemble them?
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: chemical_art on September 21, 2016, 10:20:54 PM
your profile picture fits that perfectly (:
but seriously even though I'm not interested in the game it self I am interested in the lore around the zenith after what was revealed in stars is that going to affect them mechanically at all in this game? or have you not decided on that yet?.

I guzzle any and all lore so yes that certainly interests me. SBR, no matter if realized or not, made the foundation of a lot of lore that I am sure over time will show in AIW2. No complaints from me in that regard  :)
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Cyborg on September 21, 2016, 10:32:34 PM
Neinzul aren't nanobots?
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Captain Jack on September 21, 2016, 10:37:12 PM
Are the Zenith here literally Golems(Armored, Botnet, and Regenerator), or are they smaller 'versions' that (obviously)strongly resemble them?
The Zenith here are not Golems, no. They might grow up to be Golems someday!

I guzzle any and all lore so yes that certainly interests me. SBR, no matter if realized or not, made the foundation of a lot of lore that I am sure over time will show in AIW2. No complaints from me in that regard  :)
*cackling*

Actually it's the other way around: doing AI War 2 has led to changes in SBR's lore.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: chemical_art on September 21, 2016, 10:43:44 PM

Actually it's the other way around: doing AI War 2 has led to changes in SBR's lore.

I outright laughed. That goes to show you the power of a flagship product.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Captain Jack on September 21, 2016, 11:22:26 PM

Actually it's the other way around: doing AI War 2 has led to changes in SBR's lore.

I outright laughed. That goes to show you the power of a flagship product.
Ha! Not for that reason actually: the extra time let me resolve some lore/backstory stuff that I didn't like, and then convince Chris to go with it. The timeline's looking a lot cleaner now.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: TheVampire100 on September 21, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
As far as I understood the lore, neinzul are insects or insects-like (despite not looking so) that live in big space-ship hves and can also live/survive in space which kind of is needed considering they have a very small life span. Otherwise space flight would be never possible for them.

Zentih seemed always like Cyborgs to me. Because of their technological advancements they could fuse themself with powerful technology, allowing to create themself massive bodies. That may be wrong but their (initial) lore and their artworks indicated this.

Spire are kind of mysterious, they sem to be... space... rocks? That's what the journal pages said. Unfortunately the artworks go in different directions. In AI War they have a crystal-like appearance and that's what I've always imagined, they are living crystals. The SBR artworks let them appear like shells however, so i don't know anymore what to believe.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Captain Jack on September 21, 2016, 11:45:23 PM
Zentih seemed always like Cyborgs to me. Because of their technological advancements they could fuse themself with powerful technology, allowing to create themself massive bodies. That may be wrong but their (initial) lore and their artworks indicated this.
They're living 3D printers. The giant armored forms, the weapons, the engines, everything is produced by their bodies. There's no fusion: it's GROWTH.

The Spire are rocks, yeah. Crystals really. They are actually closer to your idea about cyborgs, except the augments they fuse with are grown from crystal.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Aklyon on September 22, 2016, 12:36:41 AM
The Spire are space rocks enough to be awkward to diplomatically describe, at least. :P

Further than that I wouldn't really be able to describe them besides 'really likes bloom on their giant crystal ships' if things like the Spire Super Dreadnaught are anything to go by.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: chemical_art on September 22, 2016, 01:25:31 AM
Whatever you can say about the spire, they managed to go toe to toe with the AI in its advanced form.

Compared to their peers they are doing pretty well in a military front. I have no idea about their domestic issues but they have managed to do what no one else in current lore could not.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 22, 2016, 09:09:24 AM
The spire largely tend to be unfortunate navel-gazers... or fortunate, depending on if you think their power might be used against you.  But all that might tends to go to waste unless there's some sort of external stimulus present.  They spend a lot of time in thought.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: crazyroosterman on September 22, 2016, 08:16:26 PM
regardless if stars ever gets released or not I dearly hope that the lore in it either gets put in enougher game or just released to here for us nerds to look at.
if I remember correctly Chris said at one point that the lore was going to link to tlf(and other games) in weird and wonderful ways and the idea of never getting to see this makes me very sad.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 26, 2016, 10:52:32 AM
I completely agree.  It will see the light of day eventually in some form, don't worry!
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: Captain Jack on September 27, 2016, 02:41:21 AM
I completely agree.  It will see the light of day eventually in some form, don't worry!
Real talk though, if only from a writer's perspective I'm kinda glad SBR was pushed back. Not the way it happened, but it's given me a chance to actually think things through. AI War 2's going to be the better for it.
Title: Re: What the alien races look like (leaders from Stars Beyond Reach).
Post by: x4000 on September 27, 2016, 10:55:13 AM
Certainly understood. :)