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Offline RabidSanity

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Dark Spire question
« on: May 15, 2013, 06:18:01 pm »
Long time lurker here.  I have recently started playing with the dark spire faction and the devourer golem for the first time.  I noticed that the dark spire spawned mostly thanks to the activities of the devourer golem have been intentionally destroying special forces guard posts well beyond my borders.  I was wondering if this behavior is to be expected as most minor factions seem to avoid destroying stuff that causes increases to AIP?  Also is the devourer golem supposed to ignore dark spire ships?

I have searched the forums and the release notes but I haven't been able to find anything regarding this.

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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 06:21:11 pm »
Welcome to the forums :)

Stuff killed by the devourer is not supposed to give the Dark Spire points, not sure what's going on there. 

On the Devourer ignoring them, they're both actually "Enemy To All" minor-faction units which means they're actually allied as far as the game is concerned.  Same with Marauders and the enemy-to-all Enclaves.  And the Dyson Gatlings spawned by the Dyson Sphere when it still has an AI command station on the planet.

Dark Spire ships are allowed to shoot a lot of things (including many AIP increasing things) that other minor factions cannot, because it's specifically for breaking those kinds of rules and causing more chaos than normal factions do, if they get out of hand :)

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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 06:29:39 pm »
Thanks for the quick answer.  It is quite possible that they were not spawned by the devourer as most of this occurred when I was working through a nebula so I wasn't paying the closest attention.  There is a vengeance generator right next to one of my choke points that dyson gatlings have been feeding thanks to some threat there.  Since the dark spire ships are rather fast I could seem them going to some distant areas of the map.

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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 07:40:39 pm »
DS can be quite chaotic.  It used to be a source of fairly regular "zombie apocalypse" situations where they'd basically dominate the galaxy.
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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 07:50:33 pm »
Stuff killed by the devourer is not supposed to give the Dark Spire points, not sure what's going on there. 

I had some games where I manage to avoid all contact with dark spire and there was a strong correlation between devourer golem passing through plus dark spire destruction. I will try to get a test game, later tonight, to ascertain if there was any relationship between devourer golem and dark spire.

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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 07:52:20 pm »
I love it when lurkers pop their heads up. Welcome! ^_^
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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 08:35:05 pm »
I just did a small test game. I don't see any dark spire spawning.

So maybe it is working as intend after all. Perhaps it was champion drone bay that trigger the first waves and dark spire kill more in a feedback loop. Maybe there are other stuff at fault as well.


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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 10:10:04 pm »
I believe I have figured out what is happening.  I tested in my game by feeding all of my vultures to the several mark V enclave guardians I angered earlier.  When the Dark Spire spawn they don't just spawn at the planet the ships are dying on.  They seem to spawn on all planets that have a vengeance generator.  I know this as there was a VG behind my lines that no ships were dying on but it still spawned DS ships.

So yes this is nice and chaotic.  Which I like.

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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 10:10:41 pm »
Glad you're enjoying it :)
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Re: Dark Spire question
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 09:53:06 am »
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