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Offline crazyroosterman

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2015, 06:47:33 pm »
so since the demo dosent work i m might as well ask how well does this game run? will i need a solid computer or will it run on a melting potatoe?.
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2015, 07:44:48 pm »
Depends on the ship cap and the performance profile, along with how many ships are active. The first is a lobby setting, the second can be changed ingame, the third is part of the game.

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2015, 08:00:12 pm »
could you perhaps give me an example of that and its effects on impact? (i use a Packard bell laptop now I'm not expecting this to be super performance intensive but i prefer to be safe than sorry)
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 06:02:56 pm »
I wouldn't say that AI War is an exceedingly potato-friendly game when you hit 5000+ ships active onscreen at once while using the Insane performance profile -- the framerate can drop into the low 20s on an Intel 2600K clocked at 3.8ghz with that combo, especially if the ships involved are ones that have more complex behaviors.  However, you'll probably only hit that kind of situation on Normal caps at normal difficulty settings at the very end of the game.  And maybe not even that, if you don't aggravate the AI to the point of building those kinds of numbers.  Playing on one of the very low ship caps should get around that as it scales the units' stats so you get the same effective firepower, but with fewer ships flying around.

BTW I just downloaded the demo and the .exe is there, so it's got to be your antivirus getting trigger happy and deleting the .exe on its own.  I have to deal with that kind of nonsense at work sometimes because our one-size-fits-all network security doesn't care that my department needs to do things that sometimes look scary, but there is a dumb trick that will usually get around it -- we change the .zip extension to something the scanner won't recognize, so it doesn't know what it is and can't open it and delete stuff.  (My personal favorite is .stupid)  Then the recipient just changes the extension back to .zip and extracts it as normal.

If you want to try that, I can rename the .zip like I described and throw it up in my private file locker online and PM you the download link.  It's about 375 megabytes so I have room to host it temporarily.
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 06:30:01 pm »
Was the AI War demo removed from Steam? I remember that there was one; that's how I first found out about the game.

Okay, so I checked and it still seems to be there. You could try to install the demo that way.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2015, 06:37:53 pm »
Was the AI War demo removed from Steam? I remember that there was one; that's how I first found out about the game.

Okay, so I checked and it still seems to be there. You could try to install the demo that way.
I don't know I've looked but I seriously haven't been able to find one on it at the time I assumed it was a case of this weird aversion to demos company's seem to  have these days I will look any way again on steam though for prudence's sake.
I wouldn't say that AI War is an exceedingly potato-friendly game when you hit 5000+ ships active onscreen at once while using the Insane performance profile -- the framerate can drop into the low 20s on an Intel 2600K clocked at 3.8ghz with that combo, especially if the ships involved are ones that have more complex behaviours.  However, you'll probably only hit that kind of situation on Normal caps at normal difficulty settings at the very end of the game.  And maybe not even that, if you don't aggravate the AI to the point of building those kinds of numbers.  Playing on one of the very low ship caps should get around that as it scales the units' stats so you get the same effective firepower, but with fewer ships flying around.

BTW I just downloaded the demo and the .exe is there, so it's got to be your antivirus getting trigger happy and deleting the .exe on its own.  I have to deal with that kind of nonsense at work sometimes because our one-size-fits-all network security doesn't care that my department needs to do things that sometimes look scary, but there is a dumb trick that will usually get around it -- we change the .zip extension to something the scanner won't recognize, so it doesn't know what it is and can't open it and delete stuff.  (My personal favourite is .stupid)  Then the recipient just changes the extension back to .zip and extracts it as normal.

If you want to try that, I can rename the .zip like I described and throw it up in my private file locker online and PM you the download link.  It's about 375 megabytes so I have room to host it temporarily.
I would love for you to do that it would be extremely helpful also I don't mind as long as it runs well enough for me play comfterbley(I know I spelt that wrong and brain cant process the proper spelling of it for some reason at the moment) I tend to be more than happy at 30 fps now granted if I was using better hardware I would probably have higher standards. ps thanks for the info
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2015, 06:51:57 pm »
Was the AI War demo removed from Steam? I remember that there was one; that's how I first found out about the game.

Okay, so I checked and it still seems to be there. You could try to install the demo that way.
okay so I just looked some how I've managed to miss it all the other times I've looked for it I guess I must be going senile in my old age 0_0
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2015, 07:12:41 pm »
Stop loosing your time with the demo and just get it!!!
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 09:49:16 pm »
so I have to ask how slowly can you take this personally I tend to get a bit stressed out if I don't take games at a certain pace?.
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2015, 10:10:16 pm »
so I have to ask how slowly can you take this personally I tend to get a bit stressed out if I don't take games at a certain pace?.
You can do lots of things while paused, and aside from minor factions that produce timers of sorts (exowaves, alt-champ exos, spire civ leaders, Quadratic AI type, Colony Rebellions, astro train construction, others I might've forgotten), theres not much you really need to be in a rush for. Strategize your AIP gains if possible, though; you can only push it back down so far.

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2015, 05:59:07 am »
so I have to ask how slowly can you take this personally I tend to get a bit stressed out if I don't take games at a certain pace?.
You can do lots of things while paused, and aside from minor factions that produce timers of sorts (exowaves, alt-champ exos, spire civ leaders, Quadratic AI type, Colony Rebellions, astro train construction, others I might've forgotten), theres not much you really need to be in a rush for. Strategize your AIP gains if possible, though; you can only push it back down so far.
As said.
Forget about Starcraft; AI War is about strategy.
I set it a bit bluntly, but with SC there is a lot or micro and APM and reactivity, and strategy tends to be a less important thing. (This is almost true for the middle of the ladder; on the bottom the best player is the one that is the most familiar with the game; on the top the best is the more strategy/mindgame; on the middle the best is the most nervous, sadly)

I quited SC2 and all the games that resemble it when I discovered AI War; it redefined my definition of strategy.
So if you prefer true strategy where you can pause and think at what you'll do next, AI War is made for you.
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2015, 06:08:14 am »
so I have to ask how slowly can you take this personally I tend to get a bit stressed out if I don't take games at a certain pace?.
You can do lots of things while paused, and aside from minor factions that produce timers of sorts (exowaves, alt-champ exos, spire civ leaders, Quadratic AI type, Colony Rebellions, astro train construction, others I might've forgotten), theres not much you really need to be in a rush for. Strategize your AIP gains if possible, though; you can only push it back down so far.
As said.
Forget about Starcraft; AI War is about strategy.
I set it a bit bluntly, but with SC there is a lot or micro and APM and reactivity, and strategy tends to be a less important thing. (This is almost true for the middle of the ladder; on the bottom the best player is the one that is the most familiar with the game; on the top the best is the more strategy/mindgame; on the middle the best is the most nervous, sadly)

I quited SC2 and all the games that resemble it when I discovered AI War; it redefined my definition of strategy.
So if you prefer true strategy where you can pause and think at what you'll do next, AI War is made for you.
So true. i abuse the pause button maybe a little too often. I think I have currently about 50 hours in a game with 15 hours of it being real game time.
It's a lot more comfortable if you pause the game and then set up your defenses instead of doing all this in real time. Or pause and give orders to your fleet, especially if you have to divide your fleet to multiple targets.
I can hardly imagine doing this all in real time. Plus, there is Auto AIP, meaning i ticks up the longer time you take for your actions. Pausing the game allows you to "play" the game without havig the risk that the AI launches a surprise attack against you.

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2015, 06:22:03 am »
Plus, there is Auto AIP
Know that it can be turned off in lobby. I often play with low or no AIP because I like both low-AIP/sneaky-playstyle and strategy over rush. However, R.Q recently played with a huge Auto AIP (because of an outdated lobby tooltip), and it's still very strategic because the pause let you do many things with few game-time. On high difficulty/skill, never having a ship doing nothing is the base (attack with your fleet, defend with turrets, deepstrike with raiders, and manage all that by pause-and-order).
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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2015, 07:23:28 am »
I know or at least you can change it to your liking (of you don't want to switch it entirely off).
I find playing playing entirely without it a little plain, it gives you the pressure not to bunker yourself entirely in and wait the worst out.
But I tick it higher as the standard.

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Re: were to find the demo for this game?
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2015, 09:32:07 am »
I know (...)
I know you know; I was clarifying/tampering your post for crazyroosterman. Speaking of auto difficulty increase when someone ask if the game isn't too stressing... Well, I wanted to be sure CRM wasn't afraid by such feature, that's why I specified it is optional.
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