Macromanaging Fleet Production

[corfe83]

Personally I don't want to put docks in control groups to use this option if possible at all.

I actually agree with this in principal, but I'll take what I can get

[Aklyon]

I'd also prefer to not require a control group, but I could deal with it if needed, I don't have as many groups as Vyndicu. (I usually have the main fleet on 1, MSDs on 2 (or Champ), Enclaves on 3 (along with MSDs if I have a champ taking up 2), and special craft on 4 or above (Spire fleet, a group of golems, sneaky cloaked raiders group, etc)

[keith.lamothe]

Making it global-scope would be asking for a number of complications, hence the control-group thing.  Adding more control groups is something I hope to do with the UI overhaul, though.  You'd probably only use the first 10 "normally" (to select their units again), but the others could be used for these advanced things, and could be named, etc.

[Aklyon]

I like that idea of extra control groups for extra things.
But how would they show up if you can name them, if at all? (right now the control groups all show up at the top of the right bar 'o ships at this here planet)

[keith.lamothe]

But how would they show up if you can name them, if at all? (right now the control groups all show up at the top of the right bar 'o ships at this here planet)

Ones past the first 10 probably wouldn't be marked on the right sidebar.

[corfe83]

Making it global-scope would be asking for a number of complications, hence the control-group thing.  Adding more control groups is something I hope to do with the UI overhaul, though.  You'd probably only use the first 10 "normally" (to select their units again), but the others could be used for these advanced things, and could be named, etc.

Named control groups could be an interesting and generic tool for other types of macromanagement - I'm intrigued. I still like the ability to make it global, but if that causes insanity in other areas, I'm comfortable with this.

[Vyndicu]

Making it global-scope would be asking for a number of complications, hence the control-group thing.  Adding more control groups is something I hope to do with the UI overhaul, though.  You'd probably only use the first 10 "normally" (to select their units again), but the others could be used for these advanced things, and could be named, etc.

Named control group hmm. How would I select them? Control + *insert a keyboard bind-able letter* or something like that? Maybe use the ctrls, that is already there, to config your named control groups?

It would not be a bad idea to make those named control group simple to use.

I would like to see global ctrls for dock/merc dock if possible.

[Vacuity]

Not sure how easily it could be implemented, but how about a toggle in the CTRLS that switches between "local dock queues" and "global dock queues"?

If it's on local dock queues then it works as it does at present, if it's set to global dock queues then all docks of that type (not MSDs, mind) share the same queue and every time a dock finishes building a ship, it simply gets assigned the next ship in the build queue.  It wouldn't be perfectly efficient, but it would be a lot easier to work with than the current system and (I think) quite intuitive.

It would definitely require the issue where a dock's maximum queue size is 16 to be resolved though.

[Draco18s]

But how would they show up if you can name them, if at all? (right now the control groups all show up at the top of the right bar 'o ships at this here planet)

Ones past the first 10 probably wouldn't be marked on the right sidebar.

Perfectly fine by most of us.  Those would be the control groups I'd assign docks to.  Or well, really anything I'd put control group options on and don't need to select at all/often.