Updating the Wiki

[PokerChen]

- Teleporting ships can still tunnel through wormholes with Force-fields placed on top of them?

If you have a save of this happening (assuming said teleporter is not ff-immune, but I don't think there are any of those), send it my way so I can fix that.  But I'm pretty sure that it was fixed a while ago.

Okay, I'll modify the wiki descriptions.

Also, I did set up an overarching scheme connecting fleet ships with their primary roles in the Wiki. If anyone has any objections please list them here or on the Talk page. http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_Ships_and_Structures#Fleet_Ships

[Diazo]

I haven't seen Lightning Turrets or Ion Cannons yet in the ship list. Are the Guardians and Guardpost versions spelt "Lighting" as well in-game?.

How did I miss those? Anyways, descriptions added.

And yay for typos. It should be Lightning everywhere AFAIK.

Hoping to finish the Military Structures section tonight.

Also, I did set up an overarching scheme connecting fleet ships with their primary roles in the Wiki. If anyone has any objections please list them here or on the Talk page. http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_Ships_and_Structures#Fleet_Ships

Looks decent. My original thought for that page was a simple listing of every unit in the game with its in-game description so you could quickly read down the page and get a quick summary of all the units without having to open each unit's detail page. If you are new to the game and want to know what the difference between a Impulse Reaction Emitter and a Zenith Polarizer and... (etc.) I was thinking that would be the page you open.

I actually like what you've done there, but something like that I was thinking would go in (the currently non-existent) strategy section under "Ship Uses" or something. Maybe add the descriptions in mouse-overs? (That would be a ton of work mind you  ) I'm just thinking for the basic ship listing page, you need the bare-bones ship description somewhere.

D:

[PokerChen]

Also, I did set up an overarching scheme connecting fleet ships with their primary roles in the Wiki. If anyone has any objections please list them here or on the Talk page. http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_Ships_and_Structures#Fleet_Ships

Looks decent. My original thought for that page was a simple listing of every unit in the game with its in-game description so you could quickly read down the page and get a quick summary of all the units without having to open each unit's detail page. If you are new to the game and want to know what the difference between a Impulse Reaction Emitter and a Zenith Polarizer and... (etc.) I was thinking that would be the page you open.

I actually like what you've done there, but something like that I was thinking would go in (the currently non-existent) strategy section under "Ship Uses" or something. Maybe add the descriptions in mouse-overs? (That would be a ton of work mind you  ) I'm just thinking for the basic ship listing page, you need the bare-bones ship description somewhere.

D:

Well, we can fill some ship descriptions the first table once things are sorted... We can move the ship roles table when the page is created.

[Diazo]

Ya, until I get finished all the ship descriptions, I'm not even thinking about the rest of the wiki.

That "RefNav" template is going to get totally reworked as the first thing I do after the ship pages are done, it does not work at all laying it out by expansion pack.

However, Military structures done, except for the warheads page, I'll finish that off tommorow.

D.

[PokerChen]

Now here's a question for the developers... did you/how did you set down the roles of the fleet-ships? Is the current categorisation somewhat similar?

[keith.lamothe]

Now here's a question for the developers... did you/how did you set down the roles of the fleet-ships? Is the current categorisation somewhat similar?

You make it sound as if there were some kind of deliberate thought involved   Well, ok, generally there was.

But as an example: in 1.0, the triangle was fighter beats cruiser beats bomber ("cruiser" was later named missile-frigate).

[PokerChen]

Now here's a question for the developers... did you/how did you set down the roles of the fleet-ships? Is the current categorisation somewhat similar?

You make it sound as if there were some kind of deliberate thought involved   Well, ok, generally there was.

But as an example: in 1.0, the triangle was fighter beats cruiser beats bomber ("cruiser" was later named missile-frigate).

And somewhere along the line that triangle got reversed into fighter -> bomber -> missile frigate -> fighter.

Anyway, The polarizers and youngling vultures are the last. What are their in-game formulae now? I suspect that the ship description may be a little off.
Vultures:
 - description claims (full damage * ( (101 - target health percentage) * 10 ) ). 5.030 spreadsheet claims a 10 minimum multiplier and a 90 maximum multiplier.
 - so it's either going to reach maximum damage at 91% health (formula given) or some other %-health...
 - This means DPS of 60K*Mark/sec against an enemy with 100% health and up to 540*Mark/sec at %?

Polarizers: Missing. Stats given between 4 to 100 multipliers.
 - This means a DPS between 37,632*Mark/sec and 940,800*Mark/sec. What's the formula? Like IREs with armour/256 ?

[Diazo]

Alright, updated for 5.031.

Did not get the warheads done though.

They are getting complicated enough I am thinking about giving them their own section like the Golems or Spirecraft.

D.

[Diazo]

Alright, Guard Posts are done.

Just the economic structures left.

[rickynumber24]

I don't know what it takes to get an account on the wiki, but I found an error...
You can fit a Laser Cannon Mk. III module in a Small slot on a Spire Cruiser.

Edit: On further investigation, it turns out that there are four slots that can take a Laser II or a Rail I, but only two of them can fit a HBC I whereas the other two can take a Laser III.

If I had a good suggestion for a better naming scheme, I'd propose it.  So far, I'm only coming up with "Beam" and "Turret", but they're all turrets.  Maybe Small, Medium, Beam, Large, and XL(FF)?

Edit2: counting

[PokerChen]

Hmmm... the wiki could do with a Ship-design pic with labels on the turret slots instead of the name small/medium/large...

[Volatar]

Hmmm... the wiki could do with a Ship-design pic with labels on the turret slots instead of the name small/medium/large...

Do I smell a need for photoshop work? 

[PokerChen]

Filled in the last fleet-ship descriptions without an exact damage formula, but I mantis'ed them for future inclusion.

Hmmm... the wiki could do with a Ship-design pic with labels on the turret slots instead of the name small/medium/large...

Do I smell a need for photoshop work? 

Go right ahead, if you like. I was just thinking of putting letters into the boxes of the ship as seen in the CTRLS-tab.

[Volatar]

Filled in the last fleet-ship descriptions without an exact damage formula, but I mantis'ed them for future inclusion.

Hmmm... the wiki could do with a Ship-design pic with labels on the turret slots instead of the name small/medium/large...

Do I smell a need for photoshop work? 

Go right ahead, if you like. I was just thinking of putting letters into the boxes of the ship as seen in the CTRLS-tab.

It's definitely a lower priority task, but I do have lots of free time.

Anyone got a save with all the Spirecraft and Riot Starships unlocked? (Those are the only modular ships other than the Spire city stuff right?)

[rickynumber24]

Filled in the last fleet-ship descriptions without an exact damage formula, but I mantis'ed them for future inclusion.

Hmmm... the wiki could do with a Ship-design pic with labels on the turret slots instead of the name small/medium/large...

Do I smell a need for photoshop work? 

Go right ahead, if you like. I was just thinking of putting letters into the boxes of the ship as seen in the CTRLS-tab.

It's definitely a lower priority task, but I do have lots of free time.

Anyone got a save with all the Spirecraft and Riot Starships unlocked? (Those are the only modular ships other than the Spire city stuff right?)

Speaking of which, the spire city stuff could use it too.

I'll hopefully have a save with all the spire fleet stuff unlocked sometime in the next few weeks. :p