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Original: http://arcengames.blogspot.com/2010/11/update-on-donations-for-childs-play.html

It's that time again!  As of October 31st, 2010, we have so far raised and donated $1,640.80 for the Child's Play charity via sales of our Children of Neinzul micro-expansion for AI War --and that's just with preorders!  Bear in mind that the money that was generated in October via distributors like Steam and Impulsewon't reach us until the end of November, and we can already tell that our total donated is going to massively increaseat that time.

We look to be well on our way to hitting our goal of $14,000.00 for the year at this rate (just with what's already been generated, but not yet made it to us, we look to be around 2/3 of the way there!).  We'll post monthly updates on how we're doing towards our goal, so check back!

More About AI War: Children of Neinzul and Child's Play
When you purchase AI War: Children Of Neinzul, you're not onlygetting an exciting new expansion, you're also supporting an important cause.  Arcen Games has partnered with theChild's Play charity, pledging 100% of the profits from sale ofChildren of Neinzul (excepting any taxes and distributor fees) to helping sick kids in need.

The staff at Arcen has long admiredthe work done by Child's Play, and we're very excited to finally be able to contribute in a substantial manner.  Ourgoal is to raise $14,000.00 USD for Child's Play in 2010, but even after 2010 all of the proceeds from this micro-expansionwill continue to be donated to the charity.

At the moment, this micro-expansion is available directly through the Arcen Online Store ($3.99 USD), as well as through Steam, Impulse, and GamersGate.

A Quick Note On Our Finances
It's true that there was recently a lot of press about our financial difficulties, and it's also true that while the release of 4.0 has been a solid step in the right direction for us, that doesn't solve everything.  We've had loads of people telling us we should "put an end to that charity thing" and look after our own finances first.  If we go out of business we won't be able to help the charity any longer, whereas if we get stronger and bigger we later can do more for charity.  Our answer is, simply: no.

On the surface that seems like solid advice, but we're not keen to start going back on our word just when things get rough.  The charity micro-expansion has been a boost to us in terms of visibility and press, so it's not like it's completely selfless at this stage, if that makes those worried about this feel any better.  But even if that wasn't true, we wouldn't want to cut this off, as we deliver on what we promise and we're not about to start taking money promised to sick kids just to help ourselves.  I'd rather go out of business.

And To Address A Couple of Misconceptions About Our Finances
First of all, some folks seem to think that our financial troubles were because of the Child's Play expansion.  Others think that it's because AI War was a failure.  Neither of these are true.

The whole point of the Child's Play expansion was that it took maybe a man-month to create, and then the result of that generates a lot of money for charity.  So far so good, and a man-month of time, while nontrivial, also isn't the cause of our problems.  And having that month back, or having the revenue from Child's Play for ourselves, while it certainly wouldn't be unhelpful, also wouldn't solve our problems.  The gap between prosperity and financial ruin is not nearly so narrow as this.

Regarding AI War itself, some folks feel like it was a failure and thus recommend ways for us to change it or whatever based on that belief.  I assume those same folks haven't seen the financial numbers that were at PC Gamer: fact is, AI War is one of the most successful indie games of the last year.  It's not Minecraft, but it's still in the top 1% financially for the indie scene.  I wish AI War was better-known, of course, and the version 4.0 has gone a long way to make it more accessible, but at the same time AI War is not really related to our troubles, either.

So What Were The Problems?
Only a few people have really understood what the problems were that led to our financial issues.  I think my posts were a bit over-long on the subject.  They boil down to four things: 1) trying to do too much; 2) jumping into an unfamiliar, overcrowded genre; 3) the worst slump in indie game sales in a decade, apparently; 4) my own poor marketing for Tidalis.

In other words, we spent a lot of money to make Tidalis, and had a much larger staff than in the past (a whole five people).  Assuming that Tidalis did remotely close to AI War, this would have been fine.  The problem was, we released it right during a huge slump for the industry in general, and the PC indie scene in particular.  Bad timing for us.  I keep up with a number of indies, and a lot of them that have been in the business for a long time talk about it being the worst few months for sales that they've seen in literally a decade.  It's not just us that's hurting.

But, our big mistake was having quite so much riding on Tidalis.  We tried to do too much, we packed so much awesome into it that it took us a lot more time and manpower than we'd initially expected (and the porting between engines in the middle, while necessary, also didn't help).  Given the largely glowing reviews that touch on only a fraction of the content in Tidalis, it's clear we could have put in 1/4 of the content or even less, and it still would have been very well received.  For the casual genre, it's clear we went overboard to the point that it's actually overwhelming some of the casual audience with how much is in there.

Not that I wish we had done less on Tidalis, but perhaps for launch we should have done less, and then built upwards from there if the game caught on.  If it didn't catch on, the loss would have been smaller.  That's what we've done with AI War (and, heck, that's what's going on with Minecraft), and it's worked very well for us.  This build-a-big-thing-and-then-pray strategy was a really bad idea (and my messing up the marketing didn't help).

Lessons Learned / Plan of Action
1. We're still working to promote Tidalis, and we think that it can be successful over time.  That hasn't changed.

2. We're working on a new for-pay full expansion to AI War, called Light of the Spire, to be released in the first week of December.  It's using a lot of the groundwork that we put in for 4.0, which is why we're able to do a full expansion in such a short period of time; we've been thinking on this for a while, and getting things ready.  Clearly there's still a big appetite for AI War stuff, and we've got some seriously cool ideas for this one, too.

3. Alden Ridge Arcade is dead, and we're going to reinvent Alden Ridge itself from what it was going to be.  No more hand-crafted story or levels -- instead, we'll be going procedural, which is something that we're very good at from AI War.  We're also going to be releasing an public alpha of Alden Ridge in the first quarter of next year, which we're pretty sure the finances will let us do, and then if that takes off we'll build that game upwards from there.  If it really takes off, which we suspect it might (that's a seriously cool game, and a lot of people are waiting for it), then we'll probably develop it over a span of years, with lots of free updates as well as paid expansions, essentially like we've been doing for AI War.

4. Cayenne and A Valley Without Wind are also off the table for now, as both of them are huge projects with a lot of hand-crafted content.  It's just not a good idea for us at this time, and we just don't know how to go about that sort of thing in a successful manner yet, it seems.  We'd need an enormous cash buffer before I'd be comfortable taking on a project like either of those.  All that said, we're instead planning to wrap a lot of the gameplay ideas from both of those into Alden Ridge, possibly as expansions to that core game, possibly as just part of other core experience over time.  There's a ton we'll be able to do with the Alden Ridge engine, if people are interested, like what we've done with AI War.  And if people aren't... we'll do something else.

5. We're also going to be working with a smaller team for a while.  Right now, it's just Pablo (music), Keith (programming/design), and myself (programming and design, as well as everything else, including art).  Phil is currently working on other projects, and Lars has a demanding day job anyway, so fortunately that works out, but we do hope to be able to work with them (and get me off of art) in the future.  Though, if AI War 4.0 is any indication, people have been really happy with the art I've been doing, as the 4.0 changes were all me.


In short, we aren't out of the woods yet, but this past week has been hugely positive for us and things are definitely moving in the right direction at long last.  And we've managed to do that while still supporting charity in a major way, which is the best part of all.
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3. Alden Ridge Arcade is dead, and we're going to reinvent Alden Ridge itself from what it was going to be.  No more hand-crafted story or levels -- instead, we'll be going procedural, which is something that we're very good at from AI War.  We're also going to be releasing an public alpha of Alden Ridge in the first quarter of next year, which we're pretty sure the finances will let us do, and then if that takes off we'll build that game upwards from there.  If it really takes off, which we suspect it might (that's a seriously cool game, and a lot of people are waiting for it), then we'll probably develop it over a span of years, with lots of free updates as well as paid expansions, essentially like we've been doing for AI War.


Yay! i love procedural generation :)

4. Cayenne and A Valley Without Wind are also off the table for now, as both of them are huge projects with a lot of hand-crafted content.  It's just not a good idea for us at this time, and we just don't know how to go about that sort of thing in a successful manner yet, it seems.  We'd need an enormous cash buffer before I'd be comfortable taking on a project like either of those.  All that said, we're instead planning to wrap a lot of the gameplay ideas from both of those into Alden Ridge, possibly as expansions to that core game, possibly as just part of other core experience over time.  There's a ton we'll be able to do with the Alden Ridge engine, if people are interested, like what we've done with AI War.  And if people aren't... we'll do something else.
Nooooo...... I don't know what Cayenne was supposed to be, but AVWW was on my must buy list for next year :'(
Oh well, i suppose i could give my ideas that i came up with for that to you whenever the Alden Ridge TD expansion comes :)

2. We're working on a new for-pay full expansion to AI War, called Light of the Spire, to be released in the first week of December.  It's using a lot of the groundwork that we put in for 4.0, which is why we're able to do a full expansion in such a short period of time; we've been thinking on this for a while, and getting things ready.  Clearly there's still a big appetite for AI War stuff, and we've got some seriously cool ideas for this one, too.
Yea, but what are they ;) I would be happy to contribute, but a name doesn't give me much to go on...

So, from what i gather, the 1600 bucks is what's actually made it to Child's Play so far? Because 11% isn't exactly well on the way... :)
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So, from what i gather, the 1600 bucks is what's actually made it to Child's Play so far? Because 11% isn't exactly well on the way... :)

I believe that was explained in this bit:

Bear in mind that the money that was generated in October via distributors like Steam and Impulse won't reach us until the end of November, and we can already tell that our total donated is going to massively increase at that time.

Sounds like some great changes, I'm excited to see what's coming in the new expansion! Thanks for keeping us updated on what's going on behind the scenes.

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You mentioned (somewhere) before about hoping to get the LotS pre-order's up and running today (3/11/10) - is that still a likely thing?  I'm hoping to be running a full-day's AI War with some friends pre-stag, and if the new beta-fied expansion is available to be played with, so much the better :):)

*REALLY* glad that the 4.0 launch has turned things around, even if not out of the woods, at least you aren't still heading for Grandma's house ;)

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We're keeping the Light of the Spire stuff a bit close to the vest at the moment -- between our own ideas, and the backlog of ideas from players (including from you!) we've got pretty much what we need.  We'll be open to new suggestions as well, as we start revealing what's in this one, but I don't want to reveal too much too far in advance because we want to be certain that everything that we're planning is feasible on such a short timeframe.  If something suddenly looks infeasible, it's getting the axe pronto and we're putting in something else cool in place of it. :)

Yes, the 1600 dollars is just what's already been sent in.  We don't get paid from most of our distributors until 30 days later, but we can see what's been generated, and it gets us to about 70% of the total, rather than 11%.  Somewhere around there.

EDIT: Ninja'd by dumpsterKEEPER. ;)

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Thanks, B0FH. :)

The plan is indeed to still have the preorders for the expansion out today if possible, but it probably won't be until late tonight EST, maybe another 10-12 hours from now.  And the starting content in it is pretty scarce, this is very early beta.
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Thanks, B0FH. :)

The plan is indeed to still have the preorders for the expansion out today if possible, but it probably won't be until late tonight EST, maybe another 10-12 hours from now.  And the starting content in it is pretty scarce, this is very early beta.

Never stopped me getting CoN early for me and others ;)

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Thanks for the update, nice to know how you keep going. And its pretty admirable that you got such views as you do in regards to Child's care. We see too little such attitudes in this day and age.
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On the surface that seems like solid advice, but we're not keen to start going back on our word just when things get rough.  The charity micro-expansion has been a boost to us in terms of visibility and press, so it's not like it's completely selfless at this stage, if that makes those worried about this feel any better.  But even if that wasn't true, we wouldn't want to cut this off, as we deliver on what we promise and we're not about to start taking money promised to sick kids just to help ourselves.  I'd rather go out of business.

"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." - Proverbs 11:24-25

God will bless you for your charity, good sir.  Have no doubt about that!

Looking forward to all the good stuff coming down the pike!

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You guys are, and I mean this, the absolute best developers in the industry, period. I've never seen anyone as responsive to fan input (while still holding to their own vision, there is such a thing as bowing to your users too much :)), as quick to fix bugs, and as generally vigorous in their support of their games. I'm sure I'm not alone among AI War fans when I say you've pretty much earned yourselves a lifetime pass. I'll basically buy anything you put out, secure that it'll be a great game in both the short and long terms, barring your adoption of the Hello Kitty license. ;D
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Good to hear things are doing ok. :D

I'll probably get CoN a bit later. Same goes for Tidalis.

Looking forward to LotS and Alden Ridge as well. ;D

4.0 rekindled my interest towards AI War, that's for sure. Good move altogether.

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[snip]  barring your adoption of the Hello Kitty license. ;D


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Many thanks for the kind words, all of you. :)  It really means a ton to me. 

And certainly, RooksBailey, that sort of philosophy is something that we hold core.  It's certainly wonderful when Bill Gates gives billions of dollars to charity, and that's an admirable thing to do, but it means a lot more when someone who doesn't have as much does the same.  In our case, I think we're somewhere in the middle on that scale, we're not paupers but we're not Bill Gates either.

And for those wanting to make LotS suggestions, I changed my mind and opened that up: http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,7513.0.html
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It'll certainly be interesting to see how it goes expanding out upon the hopefully still to be more successful AI War and the hopefully successful newcomer of Alden Ridge---a pair of seemingly big camps that share some core goodness while branching in different directions overall.

Heh, I will forever beat a silent background drum for a more Micro Sci-Fi or Fantasy RPG thing spinoff of AI War (Well, the AI really...) as the concept of "Big Foozle(s)" actually reacting intelligently and strategically to the encroaching/blossoming exploits of one or more intrepid entities growing in power to be a threat is sorely needed in the gaming space outside of the standard tropes of all only being as shiny and functional as the Plot Armor specifies in time with the rigid script.

I'm probably down for whatever so long as money avails itself even if just for the attitude of the studio in terms of progress, since I still probably have just about the worst track record here of anybody in terms of actual playing of Arcen Wares.   :P
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Looks like LotS's first beta/preorder period will start tomorrow, rather than today.  Progress is good on it, but Keith and I both have big chunks that are unfinished and not ready for release just yet.  But will be tomorrow. :)
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