Uhmm New patch??

[DakaSha]

So i bought the LotS expansion quite a long time ago but i havnt played it once since I wanted to play a patched version.. However it seems that the patch is never going to leave beta and its starting to get to me.. i dont want to play the beta as i have bad experiences with them (they are of course betas).
When is the actual patch going to be released? So far i feel like I've wasted my money. I dont want to play the non beta release version either since chances are its kinda crap and from what I've read it does have some problems (again this is normal for a new release)

So yes i sound ponyriffic but I've been patient and I'm used to arcen releasing one patch after the other.. Maybe its because of the new game but i really dont care about that xD it would be nice if this would be cleanly patched

Maybe I'm missing something but both ingame and on this forum page the 2-3(!) month old beta patch is the last one can see :-/

So let me know whats up ^^ maybe I'm just missing something like an idiot

[x4000]

The beta patch is super, super stable, I'd just play that.  The latest official version is also really stable, but the beta does include some very good changes.  Our betas aren't like most other companies.

Or let me put it another way: know what would happen if we released another official patch?  We'd change the name from beta, and make it the official one.  This one is ready to go, but there hasn't been an enormous time pressure to release it because the beta is stable and easy to get, and people seem happy.  So we haven't gone through all the hassle with getting the next official to vendors, etc, etc.

[Shrugging Khan]

Install the Beta Patch and call it a GotYE.

[DakaSha]

The beta patch is super, super stable, I'd just play that.  The latest official version is also really stable, but the beta does include some very good changes.  Our betas aren't like most other companies.

Or let me put it another way: know what would happen if we released another official patch?  We'd change the name from beta, and make it the official one.  This one is ready to go, but there hasn't been an enormous time pressure to release it because the beta is stable and easy to get, and people seem happy.  So we haven't gone through all the hassle with getting the next official to vendors, etc, etc.

Ok i thought this may in fact be the case. I was just wondering why you didn't slap on a new number and take away beta but i didn't think about the hassle of having to go through all the vendors

So thanks for clearing that up. I will now play the beta

[x4000]

No worries!

[BobTheJanitor]

In my experience with always downloading the new beta as soon as it pops up, Arcen betas are almost always stable and playable. If one was released with an actual crippling bug you can bet it will be fixed with a new patch in a matter of hours (not even days, but hours). Sometimes they do get released with minor balance issues or remote niche case bugs that can hang out for a while, but never with anything that will make the game unplayable. (And in fact, the current official release does have a few of those minor issues still in it, while the beta doesn't)

[Nalgas]

i dont want to play the beta as i have bad experiences with them (they are of course betas).

Some of the betas between 4.0 and 5.0 were a bit messy at times, and features were changing on a regular basis, but the current beta is actually rock solid and a big improvement over the current stable release.  Anyone who's not using it is missing out.  The difference is that this time around they're not adding features or overhauling the entire game, so the patches pretty much contain nothing but bug fixes that fix the handful of issues that were still left in 5.0.

[CodeMichael]

The beta patch is super, super stable, I'd just play that.  The latest official version is also really stable, but the beta does include some very good changes.  Our betas aren't like most other companies.

Or let me put it another way: know what would happen if we released another official patch?  We'd change the name from beta, and make it the official one.  This one is ready to go, but there hasn't been an enormous time pressure to release it because the beta is stable and easy to get, and people seem happy.  So we haven't gone through all the hassle with getting the next official to vendors, etc, etc.

My friends will not upgrade until it's stable (I know, not really your problem).  You're saying "why not install the beta", and I say "why not make it official if it's so stable."  Sounds like you're busy with other stuff right now (to which part of me says "yay").

[x4000]

We've never released an official version without some new content, is part of it. But 5.0 is generally extremely stable, too -- playing that or 5.010 isn't going to be a huge difference for most folks. People asked for a period where we weren't changing he game enormously; we also needed some time to focus on our other game; this is it. We put an extra month and a half of polish into 5.0 itself to make this as smooth as possible. AI War will see future periods of heavy development again, but we can't keep all our eggs in one basket forever.

[Nalgas]

5.0 is pretty good, but 5.010 really does fix some stuff that makes it a nicer experience in a decent number of situations, like raid starship and shield health, and the rebalancing of a lot of LotS ships.  Now I'm waiting for 5.011, though, for the science lab hotkey addition and the autobomb/nanoswarm fix.  Heh.

[c4sc4]

5.0 is pretty good, but 5.010 really does fix some stuff that makes it a nicer experience in a decent number of situations, like raid starship and shield health, and the rebalancing of a lot of LotS ships.  Now I'm waiting for 5.011, though, for the science lab hotkey addition and the autobomb/nanoswarm fix.  Heh.

Doesn't the science lab already have a hotkey, s, or are you talking about something different?

[Nalgas]

5.0 is pretty good, but 5.010 really does fix some stuff that makes it a nicer experience in a decent number of situations, like raid starship and shield health, and the rebalancing of a lot of LotS ships.  Now I'm waiting for 5.011, though, for the science lab hotkey addition and the autobomb/nanoswarm fix.  Heh.

Doesn't the science lab already have a hotkey, s, or are you talking about something different?

Added a new "Galaxy-Wide Select Own Science Lab" key-bind that works in both planet-view and galaxy-view (like go-to-flare does) and defaults to Ctrl+T.

    If you are viewing a planet and you own science labs on that planet, this drops any current selection you may have and selects one of those science labs (note that it does not center the viewport, there's another key for centering on the selection if you want that).
    Otherwise, if you own science labs on another planet in the galaxy, this drops any current selection you may have, switches your view to one of those planets, and selects one of those science labs on that planet, and centers the viewport on that lab.
    Otherwise (if you own no science labs), this does nothing.
    Note that this only works with your science labs, it completely ignores science labs of allied players. Also, it does not attempt to rotate through eligible selections the way other selection functions do.
    The reason for all the caveats of what this doesn't do is that its SOLE purpose is to let you access the tech-research menu from anywhere in the galaxy without having to know specifically where to find a science lab.
    Thanks to TheDeadlyShoe for the suggestion that inspired this.

[c4sc4]

Added a new "Galaxy-Wide Select Own Science Lab" key-bind that works in both planet-view and galaxy-view (like go-to-flare does) and defaults to Ctrl+T.

    If you are viewing a planet and you own science labs on that planet, this drops any current selection you may have and selects one of those science labs (note that it does not center the viewport, there's another key for centering on the selection if you want that).
    Otherwise, if you own science labs on another planet in the galaxy, this drops any current selection you may have, switches your view to one of those planets, and selects one of those science labs on that planet, and centers the viewport on that lab.
    Otherwise (if you own no science labs), this does nothing.
    Note that this only works with your science labs, it completely ignores science labs of allied players. Also, it does not attempt to rotate through eligible selections the way other selection functions do.
    The reason for all the caveats of what this doesn't do is that its SOLE purpose is to let you access the tech-research menu from anywhere in the galaxy without having to know specifically where to find a science lab.
    Thanks to TheDeadlyShoe for the suggestion that inspired this.

Oh, that's cool.

[keith.lamothe]

My friends will not upgrade until it's stable (I know, not really your problem).  You're saying "why not install the beta", and I say "why not make it official if it's so stable."  Sounds like you're busy with other stuff right now (to which part of me says "yay").

Sounds like you're in need of Friend Reeducation Services!

[Philo]

The 5.010 Beta is super stable. I've had no problems with it. Don't think I've had a single crash or any weird glitches. It's more stable really than most official stable releases by other game companies.