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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 10:04:18 pm »
Base Game + LotS works just fine without TZR or CoN.

The nature of the game is that they "mix" well together in terms of the variety of possible bonus ship types (for you and the AI), variety of available starships, combinations of minor factions, etc.  But LotS is not at all "crippled" by the lack of the first two expansions.


Thanks for your support :)
I will go ahead and jump on the dev bandwagon as far as this is concerned. TZR and CON both bring some nice additions to the game map and ship wise but LotS is a fairly hefty expansion content wise so if you have to really choose between the base game and a single expansion then LotS gets my vote due to the neat maps and defender mode. But at least consider the CON expansion as all the money generated goes to a worthy cause.  :)

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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2011, 12:21:13 am »
And then consider TZR because the first time you get behind the controls of a golem you will giggle like a giddy schoolgirl. Just sayin'.

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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2011, 01:29:33 am »
Gamersgate is having a pretty killer sale on AI War and the first two expansions. It's a pretty good time to get into the game.


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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 06:30:28 am »
Happy to inform that I went for the full package  ;D

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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 01:33:12 pm »
Nice!

You have a whole lot of quality gaming in front of you now.   ;D

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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2011, 08:52:13 pm »
Happy to inform that I went for the full package  ;D
Glad to hear it. You just purchased more content than most publishers put out in several years of full price 'expansions'.  ;)

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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2011, 09:28:01 pm »
Happy to inform that I went for the full package  ;D
Thank you very much for the support :)

That should take care of your space rts needs for, oh, about 6.4 years ;)
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2011, 09:42:21 pm »
Happy to inform that I went for the full package  ;D
Thank you very much for the support :)

That should take care of your space rts needs for, oh, about 6.4 years ;)

Is this when we can expect AI War 2?  :P

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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2011, 09:47:21 pm »
Happy to inform that I went for the full package  ;D
Thank you very much for the support :)

That should take care of your space rts needs for, oh, about 6.4 years ;)

Is this when we can expect AI War 2?  :P
I thought we were already on AI War 12.4?  :D

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2011, 09:51:44 pm »
Given our history I don't think we'd ever do a sequel, as that would just break old savegames and fragment the player base ;)

We'd just keep expanding this one.  It's already received a sequel's worth of upgrades/improvements/refinements in free DLC (probably 2 or 3 sequel's worth), and the expansions have done a pretty good job at... well, expanding :)
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2011, 10:11:19 pm »
That's a relief to hear. I don't really want or need a sequel. You guys have given me enough to do with what's already out. I'll be commanding fleets at war with AIs for a looooong time.

That doesn't mean I'm not buying any more expansion packs though. I'm already starting to wonder what you guys could possibly get into when that time comes around.

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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2011, 10:16:56 pm »
That doesn't mean I'm not buying any more expansion packs though. I'm already starting to wonder what you guys could possibly get into when that time comes around.
Oh, goodness, there's tons of stuff.  Just off the top of my head: weather (nebulae, comet swarms, solar flares, etc), a scenario editor, more story-based campaigns (exploring the human resistance stuff, or the zenith, or the neinzul).
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2011, 10:29:43 pm »
Quote from: keith.lamothe
It's already received a sequel's worth of upgrades/improvements/refinements in free DLC
Tell me about it..  :P

God knows this is a completely different game from what it was just 6 months ago let alone when it first launched.

If only other publishers would take the long view like arcen games has and the industry would enter a new golden age like back in the late 80's and early 90's when creativity trumped profitability as long as you could turn a reasonable profit.

I blame this guy for lapping it all up which makes publishers go balls out for art content and brainless game mechanics at the expense of thoughtful gameplay with adaquate graphics. This is part of the reason why every clone of duty 'expansion' is full price. Artwork is the single largest cost for a modern game nowadays and AI War handily beat that with a 'retro' 2d sprite based look that is several orders of magnitude easier on devlopment budgets than a game full of uberdetailed 3d art. Basically a single motivated person can churn out the same level of quality content as an entire 3d arthouse so you can see the economy of scale in play here.

*sigh*

I sooo wish this game could get listed on a mainsteam media site and get the attention it rightly deserves from the milling herds.

yeah, I mad  >:(

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a scenario editor

Yes please. This could be a breakout feature if its robust enough to attract the guys I know who like to pass the time by expanding on a game to suit their own gameplay style. Also make the game moddable past replacing images. Not core gameplay  mind just give us access to the graphics and possibly let us make our own ships to put into the game. That alone would expand your 'developer' base by several orders due to the plethora of game tinkerers out there who just like to dabble in game development even if they are by all rights first class talent.  :)
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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2011, 10:47:34 am »
You have no excuse to not get all expansions. NONE.

Also, I will continue to approve of MOAR content! MOAR! Silly devs, what are you doing? The version is only 5.0, and there's no more than three expansions! That can't be all! MOAR!

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Re: The Zenith Remnant or Light of the Spire? ... or both?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2011, 09:40:33 pm »
I have an existing save game that I started without any expansions. Will activating expansions change anything in that game?