Spire ram bug

[Jesterman]

According to the info box, the spire minirams sould commit suicide upon attacking. However it seems instead, they simply take damage.

I cant tell whether the box or the behavior is at fault in this case.

Can anyone confirm?

[TechSY730]

Actually, this is a oddity of all "suicide" units. Suicide units only take damage proportional to the amount of damage actually inflicted, which is often not enough to insta-kill them.

Almost all self damaging melee ships need an update to their tooltips in that regard.

[Sunshine!]

This is not true for something like autobombs - autobombs do not have high enough damage to kill themselves through self-damage, but do autodestruct on attack.

[Jesterman]

This is not true for something like autobombs - autobombs do not have high enough damage to kill themselves through self-damage, but do autodestruct on attack.

regardless, the description needs updating i think.

[keith.lamothe]

This (the spire rams) is one case where the description is right and the behavior is wrong, I think.  This is probably due to some buffs I gave it health-wise fairly recently; I tried to increase the self damage in the same proportion but apparently that was insufficient.

[RogueThunder]

Ah. So MK-IV Rams sitting on my home command center for a minute or so gradually killing themselves AND my command station while I sit helpless is not exactly the intended function.

... Are modifiers being applied to self damage? And armor subtractions? >.>

Seriously recently experienced this. Bout 8-10 of them I think. Took them a damn while but was very early game and nothing I could do to stop em xD... My own fault for pissing off a MK-IV world to some degree but lol.

[Red Spot]

In this regard I just love those tracktorbeam Spire ships, keep 100 units locked untill they kill the unit and effectivly commit suicide

[Tharrick]

I'm somewhat worried that shouting over skype or steam voice chat about sending in the martyrs and killing in as many as possible might get me on some watchlists...

[keith.lamothe]

I'm somewhat worried that shouting over skype or steam voice chat about sending in the martyrs and killing in as many as possible might get me on some watchlists...

Maybe we should rename them to the "Spirecraft Defensive Compassionate Invaders"

[Red Spot]

Say that 10 times in a row as fast as you can ... 

[keith.lamothe]

Say that 10 times in a row as fast as you can ... 

It slows down enemy reaction time to maximize damage.  "Sir! Incoming Defensive Compassiona-*boom*".

[RogueThunder]

Better yet.
Spire Proactively Defensive Compassion Cube Invaders...
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With love.

Because obviously martyrs are filled with love. I mean really, that's what powers blackmage's hadoken...