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Offline Ozymandiaz

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Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« on: March 20, 2010, 05:38:40 am »
I just noticed that the friendly dysons are slowly dying, but the one hostiles to me do not (I took their system briefly to get the AI Ion cannon {in hind sight a poor chooise as the hostile dysons proved too many and killed my fleet}).

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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 09:02:05 am »
From what I remember keith made the slow dying mechanism only for the allied dysons. All others are supposed to harass player normally :D

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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 10:19:54 am »
Yep, behavior is consistent with devious intent of programmer.

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Edit: and the "neutral" gatlings are supposed to slow-die too, should they ever leave the planet
« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 10:21:31 am by keith.lamothe »
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 02:11:23 pm »
needs moar spaceplane spam. (see sig)


Really.


Epic battles can be had with the dyson.. unfortunately, ... it doesnt require resources. You do.
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2010, 09:44:14 pm »
Ahh, I must have misread then, I tohugh it was for all dysons :P

I guess I just gotta be clever and kill them before they kill my systems :P
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2010, 09:58:11 pm »
If folks find them unbalanced-ly hard they can be nerfed (probably by making them also slow-die), I had just gotten the impression that they weren't overpowered as enemies, just annoying.
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 06:37:37 am »
If folks find them unbalanced-ly hard they can be nerfed (probably by making them also slow-die), I had just gotten the impression that they weren't overpowered as enemies, just annoying.

Alone they are not so bad, in packs of 10? They ripped my 600+ man fleet and 1 fortress easily :P.

This was somewhat early game, but I had mK III bombaers and fighters, and other units as well, not at max cap since I hade been fighitng a lot. They are indeed annoying, but also very powerful if you do not blob them and kill em quick.



Btw, I notice some wierd logic in them form time to time, like they have conflicting orders.

They would move a bit towards my WH, then a bit down, then towards my WH, then a bit down, almost like they where reciving new orders all the time (or ratehr, reciveing the two same order over and over again).

I have recently noticed this in my units in FRD mode as well; units head towards the enemy, then a bit bakc, then more towards teh enemy, then a bit back (and now no longer all the units engage in comabt in FRD mode)
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 02:35:55 pm »
groups of 10 o.0 they came out in 5's when hostile to me last time.. damn nerfs! Theres no way I can hold back 10 of them per wave
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 03:57:12 am »
My repair tugs take the Dyson Gatlings and bring them to the nearest MRS, where they take up a place for my own damaged ships! What a waste of scarce tugs! And what a waste of good ships, that could have been repaired.
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 07:09:30 am »
groups of 10 o.0 they came out in 5's when hostile to me last time.. damn nerfs! Theres no way I can hold back 10 of them per wave
I was lucky they came to one of my system that had a Radar Jammer Mk I, then I was able to semi pick them off one and one, at grat expance of my own units. Must have lost 1000 more units, and two more forts to them :P, but they finally died, and only frinldy dysons are left, and they help me out a bit better :p.

I do think that hostile dysons and neutrla dyson should loose health as well (I never got to see if the neutrals do it), but then again I am in favour of consistency, since they basically are the same unit, and since they do sapwn faster when hostile they actually are as much a threat to me as the frindlies are to the AI :P. (For some reason they like to clump up and go about in groups.)
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Re: Hostile Dysons not loosing health on other planets?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 01:02:42 pm »
groups of 10 o.0 they came out in 5's when hostile to me last time.. damn nerfs! Theres no way I can hold back 10 of them per wave
I was lucky they came to one of my system that had a Radar Jammer Mk I, then I was able to semi pick them off one and one, at grat expance of my own units. Must have lost 1000 more units, and two more forts to them :P, but they finally died, and only frinldy dysons are left, and they help me out a bit better :p.
I must have lost something to the tune of 300k m/c in spaceplanes to the Gatlings before I got my leech starship onto the field..
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