Reactions to Ancient Shadows and Suggestions

[Draco18s]

AIP reduction underwhelming? AIP is the strategic core of this game.

I meant in the sense of not being anything new or flashy.  Certainly it would be strategically compelling.

What about...AI Hacking Response reduction?

[Faulty Logic]

Or a way to reduce the AI floor?

[Draco18s]

Or a way to reduce the AI floor?

Honestly, I'm not sure the AIP Floor comes up that much.  I mean, prior to hacking-response, a friend and I pulled the AIP reduction so low as to actually increase total AIP due to the floor going up, but other than that...I don't think I've ever hit the AIP Floor

[Faulty Logic]

In any Spire Civilian Leader game, floor is a factor. Also, in most games with a big Superterminal hack, or in games where you take very few planets.
Of course, I tend to play at the extreme low end of AIP.

Maybe a structure like a superterminal that reduces the floor instead of increasing it (while also reducing normal AIP).

[Draco18s]

In any Spire Civilian Leader game, floor is a factor.

Fair point.  I've just never freed enough leaders for it to matter before. XD
(Notably it's a 4-hour break-even time on freeing a civ leader over just destroying them)

[Nodor]

In any Spire Civilian Leader game, floor is a factor.

Fair point.  I've just never freed enough leaders for it to matter before. XD
(Notably it's a 4-hour break-even time on freeing a civ leader over just destroying them)

Which is fine when your average game is 40 hours.

[Faulty Logic]

And that's just AIP. You also get the k, resources, and energy of the planet, and a one-time -3 AIP on capture (which also resets its hour clock).

Of course, the initial doubling of AIP can be brutal.

[Eternaly_Lost]

We really need a way to repair the starbases in the Nebulas. I keep looking at the damaged one and trying to send Engs into repair it. A module that replaces a shield on the Champion with a repair beam would be wonderful. Otherwise it is forced to sit at the starbase that is almost dead to stop the AI from destorying it well the troops very slowly take over the world. Very slowly in fact, I would like to see it go faster somehow.

[Draco18s]

And that's just AIP. You also get the k, resources, and energy of the planet, and a one-time -3 AIP on capture (which also resets its hour clock).

You don't have to capture the planet to get the AIP

[Diazo]

edit: Deleted. Post I was replying to got modified.

D.

[Draco18s]

Think he means at game start the Civ Leaders tick so you effectively start the game at 20 AIP.

I meant the other half, fixed the quote.

[Wanderer]

Holy mother of... thazza a lottsa postins!

Finally caught up.  Gratz on Beta release.  I'll get to it eventually (keep shoveling through the forum)

[keith.lamothe]

Finally caught up.  Gratz on Beta release.  I'll get to it eventually (keep shoveling through the forum)

Thanks   I figured you'd been recovering from an AI-overdose when it snuck out the new stuff

[Wanderer]

Finally caught up.  Gratz on Beta release.  I'll get to it eventually (keep shoveling through the forum)

Thanks   I figured you'd been recovering from an AI-overdose when it snuck out the new stuff

Pretty much.  That and I got distracted by a bunch of used games at Gamestop I'd wanted to play and catch up on the storyline.  Gears 3 was decent, AC Revelations was fun, and I'm still laughing my way through Saint's Row, the Third. 

I'll admit I'm a bit crosseyed at the intent of this expansion.  It's one hell of an answer to wall-clock, I'll give you that.  It just seems so... secondary... to core gameplay that it's definately not what I'd expected.  I'd honestly expected a secondary faction to be 'on the board' with you or something similar.  My brain is still mulling over the possibilities and the implementation.  I'm going to let it go a few more iterations before I snag it because I become a very frustrated early-beta tester with gross bugs in the way and a lot of the other guys here are better about expressing UI issues and the like than I am, and I want to see it with more polish on it when I see it for the first time...

... so with that said... errr... what happens if I beta update without having the expansion?  I've never been expansionless for beta updates before.

[Faulty Logic]

Nothing should happen (except the non-expansion bugfixes in the updates).