Prerelease 3.171 (Bugfixes, no more sniper shots for heavy defense)

[eRe4s3r]

Yeah, you'd think with that community size there would be a decent GUI and layout guru around..

Obviously not

[snrub_guy]

If you really want to get into DF, and it's just the initial learning curve and graphics putting you off, then I highly recommend these tutorials.

http://afteractionreporter.com/2009/02/09/the-complete-and-utter-newby-tutorial-for-dwarf-fortress-part-1-wtf/

They link to a package of the game bundled with a graphics upgrade pack, and are great to learn the game from. I did a couple of weeks back, and am completely addicted. Bear in mind that it is not for the most recent version, but a good place to learn the basics. You can upgrade afterwards, pick a new tileset, add the isometric visualiser (look up stonesense) and replace Dwarf Manager (that it tells you to get in the tutorials) with the newer Dwarf Therapist.

Sorry for the off-topic stuff... The prerelease is good, I'm having fun with it (when not building a fortress).

[RCIX]

Hey, thanks for that link! just what i needed to get my fortress off the ground...

[x4000]

Definitely a cool link, I skimmed the tutorial but sometime when I have more time to get into something like DF, that's exactly what I need.  I loaded it up briefly once, but couldn't make heads nor tails of it with 20 minutes of messing around with it, so gave up for the time being.  I wish I had more time for stuff like that, it's the sort of thing I would have been all over years ago.  Tutorials like the above linked would really help next time I have a chance, at any rate.

In other news, new version: http://arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,6060.0.html

[eRe4s3r]

If you really want to get into DF, and it's just the initial learning curve and graphics putting you off, then I highly recommend these tutorials.

http://afteractionreporter.com/2009/02/09/the-complete-and-utter-newby-tutorial-for-dwarf-fortress-part-1-wtf/

They link to a package of the game bundled with a graphics upgrade pack, and are great to learn the game from. I did a couple of weeks back, and am completely addicted. Bear in mind that it is not for the most recent version, but a good place to learn the basics. You can upgrade afterwards, pick a new tileset, add the isometric visualiser (look up stonesense) and replace Dwarf Manager (that it tells you to get in the tutorials) with the newer Dwarf Therapist.

Sorry for the off-topic stuff... The prerelease is good, I'm having fun with it (when not building a fortress).

Wow, THANK You.. i never heard of Dwarf Therapist before. Though, its not hooking up the gameworld display in its own windows right? Because what i really need/want is full mouse control ,p

[RCIX]

I'm more interested in the tools listed in the wiki that aim to give a 3d rendering of a dwarf fortress world; the interface in DF is usable but terribly drab after a while. But yea, i have a basic fortress going and i'm working on clearing an area for a trade depot now

[zebramatt]

There's an isometric DF renderer out there somewhere too, isn't there? If I recall, you can't play in isometric, just load your fortress and gawk at it in twee isometric.

[RCIX]

Yep, saw that too. Might give it a go, if it still works with the old versions.

[vonduus]

If you really want to get into DF, and it's just the initial learning curve and graphics putting you off, then I highly recommend these tutorials.

http://afteractionreporter.com/2009/02/09/the-complete-and-utter-newby-tutorial-for-dwarf-fortress-part-1-wtf/

They link to a package of the game bundled with a graphics upgrade pack, and are great to learn the game from. I did a couple of weeks back, and am completely addicted. Bear in mind that it is not for the most recent version, but a good place to learn the basics. You can upgrade afterwards, pick a new tileset, add the isometric visualiser (look up stonesense) and replace Dwarf Manager (that it tells you to get in the tutorials) with the newer Dwarf Therapist.

Sorry for the off-topic stuff... The prerelease is good, I'm having fun with it (when not building a fortress).

This link was what made DF playable for me, too.

On topic: I thought the AIwar release today was supposed to be an official upgrade? Never mind, I'll go download the pre-release. Seems to be a totally new game compared to what I was used to.

So knowledge raiding was an exploit? Drat, that was the one thing I really excelled at in this game. Apart from getting killed.

[x4000]

See the notes here about why this wasn't an official: http://arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,6056.0.html

Regarding the knowledge raiding, that wasn't an exploit by nature, but people were using it exploitatively.  We suggested brushing once or twice daily, and people were using brillo pads 20x per day until their gums bled, basically.   At any rate, that's something you can still do, but it's harder (and less necessary) now.

[snrub_guy]

Wow, THANK You.. i never heard of Dwarf Therapist before. Though, its not hooking up the gameworld display in its own windows right? Because what i really need/want is full mouse control ,p

No, it runs seperately from DF, like stonesense, but it makes the managing of your dwarfs skills so much easier. I have a few custom professions that all my migrants get put into, meaning I can quickly have all of my masons for example on detailing duty. At the moment, I think the only real use for the mouse in actual DF is in designations. Maybe he'll add more functionality. It is still only version 0.31.08...

[vonduus]

See the notes here about why this wasn't an official: http://arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,6056.0.html

Regarding the knowledge raiding, that wasn't an exploit by nature, but people were using it exploitatively.  We suggested brushing once or twice daily, and people were using brillo pads 20x per day until their gums bled, basically.   At any rate, that's something you can still do, but it's harder (and less necessary) now.

Yeah, my gums are still bleeding.

[x4000]

 

[RCIX]

On topic:

I thought the topic was Dwarf Fortress

[vonduus]

Sorry RCIX, sometimes I can be very formalistic and pedantic without realizing it myself.  AIWar has moved on to 3.172, so I guess this thread has no topic any more.