help on vengeance generators.

[Volkskrieg]

Hello again. First of all i wanted to say thanks to the guy who helped me with my earlier question on the ilostit cheat. Now my question is of course related to the ds generators. What exactly causes them to spawn ships, i know ship deaths power it but what makes it spawn dark spire craft? I am wondering cause i used the aforementioned ilostit cheat to spawn one on my team to see if any ship deaths could give me some allies or troops to help me out. However all it does is sit there being it, I've had at least thousands of ships die in its system, but no dark spire craft spawn. Anyone got a clue?

[Tridus]

Ships dying give it build points, and when it gets enough points it'll create some ships. The cheat may not be giving it build points, or it may not be working right if it's on your team rather than its usual "hates everyone" mode.

Normally all the generators are linked, and anything dying at any of them will give points to all of them (so ships will spawn at all of them). The cheat may have broken that.

[Volkskrieg]

So how would i fix this issue? Should i add more generators on different worlds or is there a way to modify the games files? I wanted to experiment with these things, as they seem interesting to me.

[Tridus]

I'm not really sure. It may be a weird edge case bug.

The easiest way to play with them is to start a game with them turned on and then just go take a world that has one.

Bonus points if you reveal the other ones (or turn off fog of war) so you can watch what happens on the AI worlds when ships start spawning like crazy.

edit - Actually, that's probably the problem. Is the faction turned on in your game? If not, their intensity is probably set to 0, which won't do anything.

[Volkskrieg]

Actually the faction is on and their intensity is set to 10 maybe its restricted to a certain amount of generators?

[Volkskrieg]

Crap now another bug, i just loaded my save and everything is intact... except the wormholes?... they have lterally disappeared on every planet. Even the little ally convoys that go from friendly planet to friendly planet have stopped dead. And at the top right corner it says "Client Receiving Data Error." Is this a steam related problem or maybe my tampering with the generators caused something odd to happen.

[Tridus]

Keith would have to answer that, but it sounds like something's broken in that save.

[Volkskrieg]

Seems like so imo as well. Ill figure the wormhole problem later as its only affecting that save. Anyways i messed around with the generators and discovered something... interesting although it will not spawn any friendly dark spire ships it does spawn hostile ones... at all other generators not on my team. Causing the AI to have to deal with random influxes of ships. Ha! Though not what i was expecting, it is certainly a. Good way to harass the ai with just building cheap ships and scraping them all for the lulz. Also ty for the help good sir.

[Tridus]

Yeah that's mostly what they do.

In a normal game, ships spawn at all generators when ships die at any of the generators. It can be a good thing if you can get a lot of ships to appear on AI worlds, but I've had it go really wrong when I invaded an AI world that had one and suddenly ships are pouring out onto a world I control from that generator!

Core Turret Controllers are pretty awesome for helping you hold a world with a generator as they provide a lot of local firepower.