Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (IV)

[keith.lamothe]

Nominations from this thread.  Clearly I let it run too long   Or had too broad a category.  Anyway.

So, who's next?  3 votes per person this time due to the breadth of the field.  I'd been holding off on trying the multi-vote thing since it doesn't let you use more than one on a single option, but I think it's alright this time.

Thanks for the feedback

[TechSY730]

Harvesters, military teleporters, and making Zenith and spire starships have their own "feel" again (while still keeping an increase of stats) are all things to be looked at, I voted for the things I think need attention the most:
Mobile repair stations, exo-forcefields, and Neinzul enclaves.

I'll re-nominate the above stuff next time if the "scope" is still open enough for them. I'll also nominate mines earlier (again, if the scope allows it) so they can make it onto the poll.

[Hearteater]

The only reason I didn't pick Counter Dark Matter turret is because I think the problem is partially Astro Trains and they are an entire rework waiting to happen.  That, and there probably should be some more noticeable Dark Matter damage from the AI that isn't tied to a minor faction to make the CDM turret otherwise useful.

[keith.lamothe]

I'll also nominate mines earlier (again, if the scope allows it) so they can make it onto the poll.

Sorry, an unintentional omission.  But I'm already working on rebalancing them, so it's not a big loss to not have them in the list.

[Cyborg]

I'm going with the Zenith spire starship line, which never evolved with the latest expansion, along with exo harvester shields and the enclave starship.

[Ricca]

With the Zenith, Spire and Neinzul ships, why not add another tab to the starship constructer, marked ALIEN, or ALN or something. Although a more powerful starship, or two would have to be added to make up for the loss of the two above the Flagship, that way, the Zenith could go back to the mobile fortress slinging missiles, the sniperish Spire, and the building Neinzul.

And maybe drop a Neinzul ship, Mk 1 builds Mk 1/2 ships, Mk 2 builds 1/2/3, and the new top, Mk 3, builds 1/2/3/4.

Just thinking out loud, but...

[TechSY730]

With the Zenith, Spire and Neinzul ships, why not add another tab to the starship constructer, marked ALIEN, or ALN or something. Although a more powerful starship, or two would have to be added to make up for the loss of the two above the Flagship, that way, the Zenith could go back to the mobile fortress slinging missiles, the sniperish Spire, and the building Neinzul.

And maybe drop a Neinzul ship, Mk 1 builds Mk 1/2 ships, Mk 2 builds 1/2/3, and the new top, Mk 3, builds 1/2/3/4.

Just thinking out loud, but...

There has been plans for splitting the fleet, zenith, and spire starship lines for a while now. It's just that other, higher priority stuff has been going on.

Interesting idea about the Neinzul ship, but two things. One, their pathetic self-construction rate would make it such that I still wouldn't use them even with that buff. Two, the ability to construct Mk. IV fleet ships is VERY valuable, and should be priced (in knowledge) is such. Is the current total knowledge cost for it too high at the time? Almost certainly. But it needs to remain pretty high.

[Ricca]

Well, the knowledge cost can stay the same, the 3000 from the dropped ship could be split to make the unlocks 6000/12000.

The construction thing would need a look at, I'd agree.

[Kittens]

The zenith and spire starships cost so much knowledge that I spurt water all over my screen whenever I happen to mouse over them in the research menu.

[Catma]

With the Zenith, Spire and Neinzul ships, why not add another tab to the starship constructer, marked ALIEN, or ALN or something. Although a more powerful starship, or two would have to be added to make up for the loss of the two above the Flagship, that way, the Zenith could go back to the mobile fortress slinging missiles, the sniperish Spire, and the building Neinzul.

And maybe drop a Neinzul ship, Mk 1 builds Mk 1/2 ships, Mk 2 builds 1/2/3, and the new top, Mk 3, builds 1/2/3/4.

Just thinking out loud, but...

I like the idea of adding more starship tabs for any reason. The tabs are easy for noobs to miss and I feel more would make this (a little bit) less likely. I missed riot starships for a long time. Even since I've seen how awesome they are, I still forget about them sometimes. But maybe we are getting into expansion territory with additional tabs and splitting of lines and such.

[TechSY730]

Changed my vote from enclaves to harvesters. The reason for this is that enclaves can still work pretty well with engineer support. Harvesters you are stuck with.

[orzelek]

Hmm.. looks at the pool. Looks again and clicks one.. still nothing.
Looks very closely... black ticks on dark gray background.. seriously... is it something wrong with my Opera? I'm using default theme.

Mines are kind of missing.. and except for EMP ones they are not so useful. And I did try to use them few times but exos were laughing at me and waves were not so impressed.

[DeBunny]

Hm, might as well toss in my vote for the little harvester shields too. I can never justify their use to myself.

The two alien starships tend to be so "far away" knowledge-wise, for what they do, that I never really bother trying to get at them.
More immediate rewards for unlocking other ships, and generally cheaper.

Threw my third vote at gravity rippers because they seem silly. At least, when compared to gravity drains and the influx of other paralysis/engine-damage ships.

[Eternaly_Lost]

I really wish that I had more then three votes, that list is very long and quite a few things needed a buff, but I settled on Harvesters, enclaves, and Manufactories. They really all need a work.

[Nodor]

Hmm.. looks at the pool. Looks again and clicks one.. still nothing.
Looks very closely... black ticks on dark gray background.. seriously... is it something wrong with my Opera? I'm using default theme.

Mines are kind of missing.. and except for EMP ones they are not so useful. And I did try to use them few times but exos were laughing at me and waves were not so impressed.

I've found that precise lines between wormholes makes for very very effective destruction of exo-galactic strikes - especially on a dual wormhole system where you know that AI will be traveling from point A to point B.