Poll

Which one needs a buff the most?

Armor Booster
5 (5.9%)
Autocannon Minipod
0 (0%)
Captive Human Settlement
10 (11.8%)
Decloaker
11 (12.9%)
Deflector Drone
3 (3.5%)
Ether-Jet Tractor
1 (1.2%)
Eye Bot
2 (2.4%)
Grenade Launcher
1 (1.2%)
Impulse Reaction Emitter
1 (1.2%)
Infiltrator
4 (4.7%)
Raider
2 (2.4%)
Raptor
1 (1.2%)
Spire Armor Rotter
8 (9.4%)
Tachyon Drone
5 (5.9%)
Teleport Raider
2 (2.4%)
Vampire Claw
1 (1.2%)
Younging Commando
2 (2.4%)
Zenith Chameleon
0 (0%)
Zenith Electric Bomber
5 (5.9%)
Zenith Reserve (the ones that give ships)
14 (16.5%)
Zenith Starship & Spire Starship
6 (7.1%)
None Of These Need A Buff
1 (1.2%)

Total Members Voted: 30

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Offline keith.lamothe

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Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« on: July 11, 2012, 11:19:44 AM »
Nominations from this thread.

So, who's next?  3 votes per person this time due to the number of options, and I'll try to do something with the top 3 results, but probably not more than that because "processing" the results tends to significantly bog down if there's a ton of winners.

Thanks for the feedback :)
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 11:31:22 AM »
As I said in the other thread, be careful what you wish for with AutoCannon Minipods.  They are one of the few AI ships with bonuses to turrets, they're cloaked, and with a large bonus to structural they may eat your base alive if we buff them too much.

I agree that in the hands of the player there are much better options.
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 11:37:59 AM »
Oh boy, I voted spire armor rotters and armor boosters (yes, these things can be made useful even before the armor balance pass/rework, see the nomination thread for ideas). However, I was stuck between captive human settlements and Zenith caches. I chose Zenith caches, because those are much more likely to appear, and thus really need a buff more.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 12:01:45 PM »
You know you're having a little trouble narrowing things down when a poll has more options than it has votes.

I voted decloaker and tachyon drone because I simply want to have a few more of them. If you have a lot of systems and the AI has cloaked units, you spend a lot of time sweeping with detectors when you could be out doing something else that's actually fun.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 12:08:28 PM »
If the Decloaker gets buffed, can it's Tachyon Beam get an effect on units it Decloaks?  Either paralysis or even just damage?  I don't mean that as the only buff, just a random thought that would make it the premier cloaking killer.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 12:11:37 PM »
If the Decloaker gets buffed, can it's Tachyon Beam get an effect on units it Decloaks?  Either paralysis or even just damage?  I don't mean that as the only buff, just a random thought that would make it the premier cloaking killer.
I voted for the decloaker, but I don't find it that bad, just a horribly low cap.  It's the research free miniature cousin that I find the most useless.  I forget it's even there.
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 12:22:11 PM »
I find it too fragile.  I'd actually like it to be a more combat-y Starship, geared to independant action.  So high on survivability (it only has 40k health!!!), and good vs. single (formerly cloaked) targets.  Most cloakers are Refractive Armor, so that would be a good canidate for a damage multiplier.  AutoPods are Swarmer and SSB are Ultra-Heavy.  I'd probably leave Swarmer alone, but I'd really like to see it hurt SSBs.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »
Come on guys vote the Deflector Drone! Has anyone ever found them useful?
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 02:06:45 PM »
Personally, I've never used even half of the bonus ships so I can't really vote for so many things because I simply don't know.
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 02:10:43 PM »
Come on guys vote the Deflector Drone! Has anyone ever found them useful?
Yes.  They ain't my favorite toy (not a lot uses lasers) but when I get stuck with 'em their range counters most ships, and deflects that godawful Laser Guardian.
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 03:04:14 PM »
Come on guys vote the Deflector Drone! Has anyone ever found them useful?

I have not really found them that useful, but my votes are on the Decloaker and Tachyon Drone. But rather then a buff in the ship itself, I would much rather see a nice simple way for them to basically fly around a system in a spiral or some other pattern and somehow mark when they found a cloaked ship/guard post.

Stealth Guardposts are so annoying to find that I often end up bring in a Tachyon warhead to find it. Same with that one cloaked Etherjet that the AI had left after a wave to my planets. It seems to take forever to find.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 03:05:17 PM »
I considered the tach drone myself, but seeing as it's really just a mobile tachyon turret, does it really need a buff? If you REALLY need active anti-cloaking abilities, you use the Decloaker or unlock the real Tach turrets.
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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 04:00:32 PM »
I wonder how much the Stealth Guard Post issues have been because Force Fields used to block tachyon beams.  Because I've never had trouble locating one after my first game or two.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 06:49:41 PM »
Voted for zenith reserves. Never pop those.

Zenith/spire starships will never see use in serious game , K cost is big  reason for that though.

Captive settlements are pretty insanse, losing one is close to game over often enough. AIP loss could be more in line with home colonies.

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Re: Poll: Worst Unit Of The (time interval) Award (VI)
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2012, 02:42:09 AM »
How can people vote for decloakers but NOT tachyon drones? :p:p:p Have they given up any hope of balancing for those little guys?